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No really...I cannot honestly think of any words that can describe what i'm feeling right now. I'd say dissapointment but that dosent seem to be quite severe enough...for being a writer I curse my vocabulary for not having a single word in my arsenal that can convey the feeling of wanting to add clorox to the gene pool of the human race, this is what your question has made me feel in my heart, mind and gut.

Okay...

Step one: Play your game...recommend single player, easy, and Play TEC against one opponent

Step dos: Build a Marza dreadnought, now get it leveled up to level 6...

Step trois: Choose Missile barrage as your level 6 ability...now find yourself a sizeable enemy fleet, maybe a pirate base or something...now activate the ability.

Step Quadese: Come back here and tell us what happened.

he said his fleet was 200 ships?

no single cap ship can kill 200 ships?

unless it was a colony ship fleet

Hello!  Yes, a lvl 6 Marza can if they are all bunched up frigates.

Someone set up us the Marza!

Or just start shooting it.... a lone Marza will melt under the combined firepower of 200 ships.  A Marza with repair bays or Hoshiko's....different story...RUN AWAY!

How about you either go back and review the replay, or post it so someone can analyse it. Without any evidence to support you accusation, I would have to agree with everyone else as it was the same thought I had before I read their replies - Lvl 6 Marza...

As I understand it, unless there is a desync issue, it has been theorised that it is impossible to cheat at Sins by using a trainer or hacking values etc... due to the way it simluates on every PC (it is running P2P).

This link explains why it should be theoretically impossible

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/331090/get;1961489

The only thing that CAN be done is to exploit a bug, such as the one that caused the 1.11 patch to be released.

The Marza gets the ability at level 6, Missile Barrage.  It is channeld and CAN BE INTERRUPTED!  You can use things like an Akkan Ion Bolt, or Marauder Phase out Hull, or the Advent caps sleepy ability on the ship I can't remember its name....there are a couple others too, I think.

The main thing is to be careful!  You could hit the Marza with bombers from a distance, or try to get your ships out of the blast radius, or just focus all of your firepower on the Marza before it has time to channel all the damage and kill your fleet.  It takes a big fleet to do the latter, though.

Other ships have abilities that can cause a lot of damage to groups of ships, like Kortul explosive nanites, or the Radiance cleansing brilliance, Progenitor Malice.  Nothing is as powerful as the Marza right now for AoE damage, it is king.

Thanks again for quick answer, when you wrote: "But if you don't have any ships that can interupt it it is still possible to avoid getting killed, just move your ships out of range.", to "interupt" means to destroy the ship, or it is possible to "interupt" by using other means? And with the range: how long is the range of this Marza cap., or how can I recognize, that e.g. my capital ships are out of range of this Marza? And it is sure, that all embedded ships will inevitably die, when attacked by Marza???

Well killing it will ofcause interupt it, BUT there are many other ways to do it. All races have capital ships with disabeling abillities --> Ion bolt- phaze out hull - etc etc etc

The range of the missile barrage is 10000 and with a little though/practice it is not hard to judge, and if 3 frigs are still getting hit who cares.

finnaly check out https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/forum/404 as i said, we just had a long *serius* thread about the marza and all the info you want is in the stickies.

I only don´t understand, what does it mean e.g. "3000dmg" over 25 sec - is it hull value??? And also I don´t understand next sentence: -"-shield migitation (without doing the math for all races and ship, im geussing it lands at about 2000 dmg to each ship in range IF it is allowed to run for ir's full duration)"

Do you have still time to explain? (if not, I will not complain...)

A ship dies when it reaches 0hull, but before it even starts to do dmg to the Hull of the ship it must overcome the shields of the ship--->

That means that if a ship has 600 Hull and 900Shield you will need to hit it for 1500dmg before you kill it.

If you try that you will find that the ship is still alive after you deal 1500dmg to it, THAT is because of shield migitation--> Shieldmigitation is the shields abillity to nullify a certain % of the dmg it recives(if you mouseover a ship you will see that it says 15% shield migitation on the innfo card) The way it works is just like reallife stabproof wests, it's all soft but the more power you apply the harder it gets so you need even morepower to punch through- in the game it starts at 15% maing that if you do 100dmg you are really only doing 85 furthermore it increases the more dmg you apply untill it caps out at ( i think it's 65% for non advent). At 65% doing 100dmg would only result in 45 actual dmg done.

The way the Marza's missile barage abillity works is

Missile Barrage (ultimate ability)
Level available: 6
Antimatter cost: 150
Cooldown time: 240
Affects: enemy frigates, capital ships and structures
Range: self
Area radius: 10000
Max targets: infinite
Duration: 25
Interruptable
Channeling
Effect(s):
Missile salvos: 20
Salvo interval: 1.25
Damage per salvo: 150

Notes: The important thing to note about this ability is that it's channeling, so it will stop if you give the Marza other commands while it's firing, and that it takes a long time to finish. Turn off auto-everything when using this lest your capital ship decide it's a good time to, say, auto-attack a scout in the middle of your barrage. Again, the in-game info doesn't really describe what this ability does. Namely, while it's firing, the Marza shoots missiles at every target within range, each of which does 150 damage. If uninterrupted, the Marza will shoot 20 multiple-target missile salvos over 25 seconds. Obviously, this is best used against clusters of enemy targets around the Marza. Given that the Marza can't really move while firing, an enemy can move their ships out of range (or just interrupt the ability), but enemy structures within range and ships that don't notice the copious number of explosives spewing out of the Marza are fair game.

Each salvo deals 150dmg it fires 20slavoes = 3000 dmg

If we set the shield migitation to be maxed out from the start (65%) it wold really only do 1350dmg to each ship, but asit take a while to get the migitation all the way up im geussing it ends up being around 2000 to each

BTW shieldmigitation is allways activ even when the shields are at 0 power

and has been invented to counter the traditional tactial choice to just focus fire, if you have all your ships fireing on just 1 enemyship you loose 65% of you dmg if you spread your fire you loose less but give him time to repair / replace ships as the ships taking dmg dies slower

i find this thread very amusing. its rather funny because i was accused of cheating just last night during a 5 way ffa. defeated 1 player(he was fighting on 2 fronts). proceeded to focus on a 3rd econ boost while uppign research, fleet size, and mopping up. the mopping up enabled my marzda to hit lvl 6. then i moved in on the player that previously fought the one i elimated. that was a pretty intense battle and immediately noticed 3 kols and 4 sovas along with a number of hc, hoskitos, lrf and carriers. funny thing is, he didnt focus fire my marzda and at the same time, clustered his fleet so close that when he signaled to attack a specific ship he missed and instead gave the order to move in. this brought his entire fleet within range so i went ahead an fired off an emp charge from my dunov, then maganitize, then i sent in the radiation bomb and followed up with the beautiful barrage.during this time he was building/bring in renforcements but still managed to lose roughly half his fleet. while he was focused on crankin out ships and directing them into battle, my marzda managed to 2 more barrages off(thats how long this battle was). after losing just about everything, he went off on me and accused me of hacking, etc etc etc, calling me names and what not. i politely pointed out that he made the mistake of allowing my marzda to fire off not 1 but 3 different missle barrages.

needless to say, he continued the abuse for a few more minutes while staging a last shot coup(still ignored the marzda) which didnt last long, and then quit. right after quiting, the last human player decided to move in on the other end of the empire(ah my investment of defenses/repairs and newly formed fleet paid off rather quickly!). his fleet was far superior to mine, but the repairs were nice in keeping on top of things. i was losing ships left and right. quickly depleating my massive econ, i geared up and built lrf enmasses(had ship build speed research capped out) and attempted to hold ground until my main fleet could jump in(7 planets away). during this time my newly created marzda in the new fleet leveled up to 6 quickly so i unleashed barrage which did considerable damage. right after wards my original marzda arrived and unleashed barrage. at that point the player was pumping kodias like crazy from 4 different planets. i noticed my ships all of a sudden started taking heavy losses(the lrfs) so i looked and lo/behold!!!! he had a lvl 8 marzda(curses!!!). swiched gears and focus fired on that marzda with everythingi had. once it was taken out, i was able to fire off several more barrages and after that point, the the game was over. the entire time, the player didnt say anything. he just promptly quit.

in other words, marzdas are dangerous... take it out asap, even if it isnt lvl 6, dont run the risk of allowing it to get to that lvl during battle. if you see more than 1, ur in serious trouble. while the marzdas have incredible firepower(about time tec had something!), they are weak health/shield wise and can be easily taken out. any cap that is focus fired is basically screwed. but for a marzda to fare/survive well in a large fleet battle, the dunov and hoskitos are a must.

it was me, i was the cheeter, smurffing.

i remeber how i jumpped in only the marza, pingged your fleet and had a good laughts in TS with my DT clan mate.

Also, your tears were delicios.

Someone set up us the Marza!