Starbase, ship attack priority

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I wont add this to the big post on starbases and mines as its slightly different.

More a question, I took a Starbase constructor with me to a battle, flew it up to the vasari starbase and deployed it.  Apart from a few attacks from the other starbase, it wasnt enough to take down the shields and damange the construction.

In the end , mid battle, a starbase appeared, which I upgraded quite happily.

Now its not a complaint that you can do this, more perhaps an issue with AI targetting priority.  Shouldnt the AI see a starbase going up next to it, and nuke the thing before its an active problem?

At least thats what most humans would do, well assume they would do.

 

 

 

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

There are a couple of problems.

One is that the constructor, regardless of how much damage it has taken, disappears, and "becomes" the starbase.

Two is that the starbase has shield mitigation while it is being constructed.

Three is that it takes somewhere in the vicinity of 300 DPS to take out a starbase before it finishes being constructed (on fast, anyway), assuming you start firing on it as immediately as possible.

Three is largely but not entirely the fault of two.

Four is the fact that starbase construction times in general and starbase construction times in hostile gravity wells in particular are way too fast.

As for constructing in the presence of a Vasari starbase, while targeting priority probably needs to be looked at, I'd assume that the AI didn't do one or both of the weapons upgrades.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

It occured to me that as the game gets adjusted based on our feedback.  Mines adjusted, and I assume some kind of starbase range effectiveness. 

Suddenly the use of Aggressive starbase placement in battles will start to be a problem.

My instant thought on abusing starbases is to use constructors to drop starbases in battles as a method of putting large cap ship sized powerhouses in the middle of a battle as a way of not using up my fleet capacity.

Ok it sounds silly, but someone will find a way of using a starbase assualt.  Seeing as Starbases are supposed to be defensive, it would be a bit wrong.

:) 

Just something to watch out for.

Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

Ok it sounds silly, but someone will find a way of using a starbase assualt. Seeing as Starbases are supposed to be defensive, it would be a bit wrong.
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They're not supposed to be defensive. Deploying them in a hostile grav well is a valid and planned tactic for them.

The Vasari do get a slightly unfair advantage there because theirs moves (I'd be perfectly happy making theirs not move) which means they can deploy the Migrator as soon as it jumps in and before the defensive fighters can destroy it. So it can immediately deploy on the edge of the grav well and then the constructed starbase moves into range.

The other races don't have this because they need to deploy it in a place that matters. And their deployment cruisers are paper thin, which means against any competent player they really should never get in place to deploy :P