The only lag I notice is when there has been a certain number of ships are built globally, not entirely sure what it is but I played 5v5 with AI and normal fleet (4000 with max supply)

it was about 2hrs in before it started crawling, like time dilation where 10 seconds would pass in real but maybe 7 seconds had passed in-game

game start speeding up when fleets were getting decimated.

using an i5-750 @ 4GHz, GTX260, Win7 x64, 4GB RAM

well the lag on my side (playing with DIPLOMACY 1.00) i am not sure why it is happening, all i can say is, when playing with entrenchment 1.05 it laggs less.

(or it might be due to the fact that the map i play on there are like 10+ pirate bases with a huge amount of ships, along with 3 other AIs, anyone can clear up if this might be why?)

Have you reduced your graphic to anything less than Highest. Highest will crash the game. All ways have all ways will. With everything the Mod adds the the game Highest settings will push you past the 2 GB limit.

Also if your experienceing a large ammount of lag end game, I personaly suggest triming your empire tree. Or killing it as much as possible. I use to expereience massive lag mid to end game when I left SINS auto pin just about everything. My FPS went from 60+ to 15 while watching a battle. Through trial and error I found when I reduced my empire tree to the bare bones or nothing my FPS and lag went away.

I thing its b/c the game has to show hundred's of Icon in the empire tree, which takes CPU power.

Anyhow I suggest everyone try to keep their empire tree neat and trimed. The less you have pinned the less it will lag.

Out of curiosity, is all support for DS going to move to Diplomacy for now?

For the time being we are still working on Entrenchment and Diplomancy. More than likely as long as both stay some what the same coding wise. Though in time Im sure IC will open more moddable stuff in Diplomacy just like they did in Entrechment leaving us to work with one till we get what we want then going back and attempting to update the other as best we can

Were any of the Pacts modified by you guys in the Diplomacy version?

What program did you guys use to turn the entity files into "bin"? I want to modify them.

restless the program used would be convertdata_expansion.exe, and one of the wrappers for the convertdata's like mine

harpo

Oh, I see. Well, I have CovertData_Diplomacy0.85, in the same folder as "sinstextbinner", and I opened the sinstextbinner program and went to the GameInfo folder of Distant Stars (which is on my desktop) and I get this error:

convertdata not found for the expansion chosen. looked for convertdata?originalsins.exe here, and did not find it. please copy it into this location

What's the matter?

here is what i got for you:

-my graphics are at High settings;

-I am curently playing in a 1v1 with 5 pirate bases in the map, so far so good, no lagg.

-you mean the icons wich how what planets you have and what structures/units are within then gravity well? how do you get rid of theses icons?

The Empire tree. That list of things you own on the left side of the UI. You can limit what the game auto pins (aka shows all the time in the Empire tree) by going to the options deselecting all the auto pin options. Or you can edit your user.setting file. Its found in your Appdata folder. Its in the setting folder.

Here is the part your looking for:

IsEmpireWindowStacked TRUE
MaxEmpireWindowStackSize 25
AlwaysShowEmpireWindowFleets FALSE
ShowEmpireWindowFleets FALSE
ShowEmpireWindowBackdrop FALSE
ShowEmpireWindowAllies FALSE
ShowEmpireWindowEnemies FALSE
AutoPinPlanets FALSE
AutoPinCapitalShips FALSE
AutoPinFrigates FALSE

I have everything deslected. The only thing you have to manualy unpin ingame are starbases. You can edit this to fit your playstyle. But with my settings with no grav well select in game I have no icon in my empire tree. Also deselcting Show Trade Ship Icons will help you with big maps and late game.

EDIT: I also personal turn down planets to med. settings just to save a bit of power. Unless Im testing or taking picture do I use High on planets. I always use High for Structures and Ships, sometime Highest for ships only. Extras are on Highest. Bump on low or med. Highlighted meshes off, Bloom enabled. AA on 2 sample. No planet elevators, no dust clouds. This is what I use when I play. *shrugs* This might help you, it might not. Again this is what I use and can run some epic games. 10 players, 10,000 fleet points per player. Only time I lag is in big battles with 3+ player in the same grav well and/or 100's of SC.

Still crashing for some reason -

And it only seems to happen when I attack the pirates.

Everything else runs completely fine and I've installed the mod several different times.

That's what was happening to me. Remove the powerful pirates mod until they fix it

First off, I absolutely love this mod. There are a few things that I dislike but only out of personal preference, however I have noticed an issue.

On the Vasari Research tree, I sadly forgot which one, I believe it might have been Empire. I have noticed a research icon that looks like a TEC cruiser carrier and says "String not Found" and gives the same for the description.

Also I was wondering if you could offer the mini mods as seperate downloads so that in the future we can choose what we want active or not? 'Cause the custom pictures get me a bit confused when I play diplomacy and look at that window.

You do not have to use the Mini Mods. Its why they are already seperate. And in the extra folder.

the custom pictures are hardcoded into the game itself, pretty sure this won't be unmodded

I'm not seeing an extra's folder, but thanks for the speedy reply.

You'll be glad to know the next patch (fixed internally already) will be fixing those portrait pictures so no more confusion

Well, he means some of the main mods. Like the fact that you can't use the new planets without using the new particles, or you can't use the new particles without having to deal with the incredibly slow research.

So if you separated them we could choose which ones we want! That would be really nice!

As nice as it maybe, it just aint gonna happen. I can not speak of the horrors riping the mod apart into mini mod would create. If you want a taste of it go back some pages ago and look at the nightmare just having Powerful Pirates and Dynamic Movement had/have created. We had some ideas for more mini mods but all that/this confusion on how to work the current mini mods have left a rather nasty taste in out mouth.

Well for one, I don't know how to remove the Powerful Pirates Mod!

And second, I am also not seeing an Extras Folder.

Sadly splitting up our mod in to seperate pieces at the moment just isnt possible none of us have a local copy of our mod which is seperately split up as we never originally intended for it to be that way and isnt a feasible task for us to do with our current time limitations in the near future and logistically speaking the multiplayer issues with checksums would be nightmarish.
As nice as making it modular would be for the limited advantages it would give it currently just isnt worth the sheer amount of effort that it would take to split the mod up.

If you cant see the extras folder then you probably dont even have powerful pirates on your computer so that wont be causing the crash. If you could go in to detail about what you were doing when the crash occurs or provide a way to replicate it, it would be much appreciated as that way we can fix it.
If your running the game on "highest" settings you'll need to lower it, sadly due to the games limitations this can cause crashes.

I'm fighting the pirates; That's exactly what I'm doing.

It doesn't matter what other races I fight, no matter how big my army or theirs is - when I come into contact with the pirates, every time, I crash. Sometimes I don't, but that's only when they attack one of my worlds with small fleets. Usually, they have massive fleets though (and ships I didn't think the pirates could get) at their homeworld).

There's nothing more to it, the pirates are causing the crash somehow, and I just experienced another one again.


Ah, I do have highest settings on everything though - but I'm going to try keeping those settings and getting rid of the Pirates and seeing if that helps me at all. I don't like playing with low graphics, especially with this beast of a computer.


I should also note I'm using the Diplomacy version. Powerful Pirates does appear to be built into the mod.

i also got the same problem as Darkieus, but it seems to be when ever i see a pirate fleet my goes kaput, my settings are also set to the highest for the same reason i dont like looking at shit i prefer looking at my nice and smooth shiney fleet

Powerful pirates isnt incorporated in to any of the mods by default however the pirates are more powerful in Distant Stars as standard. You dont need to lower your settings to to lowest or anything however using "highest" settings will cause crashes no matter the specifications of your computer, its a limit of the game engine and nothing we can do to fix it you have been warned.

The Diplomacy version thats available at the moment is still a ways behind the Entrenchment build which is why it may have some "issues". Most of the problems if not all should be ironed out in the next patch which should be next week some time all going well, an internal patch has already been released for testing some of the issues.