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Nacey
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Reply #7626 August 4, 2012 9:30:36 PM
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Quoting Annatar108,
reply 7626
Sorry for the bad translation, I'm from Russia.
The mod you have just a wonderful, guys, but it looks like Alpha as there is a problem.
I want to know how to solve a problem with it:

Slot ActionSetRallyPoint can't be setup over ACTION_CAPITALSHIP_ABILITY_4.

I just can not play. Error is constant.
Or I'll just delete the files from the ability of the planetary "entity" of the planets, until problem is solved?

In your Setting folder, in the same folder as the mod folder, find a file called "rebellion.user". Open it in notepad and find a line called "ShowErrors". Make sure its set to FALSE, not TRUE.

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Reply #7627 August 4, 2012 10:53:16 PM
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Glad to see the DS mod is up and ready for Rebellion now .

Quick question though. On the map CB Birth of the Trade Order, is there any way for the galaxy forge names (i.e. Union of Earth, Martian Venusian Alliance, Saturn League, Neptunian Empire) to still be displayed in the actual game?

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Reply #7628 August 4, 2012 11:56:22 PM
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Quoting justinian66,
reply 7627
Quick question though. On the map CB Birth of the Trade Order, is there any way for the galaxy forge names (i.e. Union of Earth, Martian Venusian Alliance, Saturn League, Neptunian Empire) to still be displayed in the actual game?

Will need to be rebuilt for that. And they will be.

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Reply #7629 August 5, 2012 12:06:44 AM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
reply 7626

In your Setting folder, in the same folder as the mod folder, find a file called "rebellion.user". Open it in notepad and find a line called "ShowErrors". Make sure its set to FALSE, not TRUE.

Thanks a lot, it helped. Just not yet learned to catch the error in another way, share your experiences please)))

I understand that the developers of DS already overwhelmed by different requests and suggestions, but let me add, too, by itself, it may be useful:
I was going to make a map of the solar system and nearby stars, but most of the stars that surround us double or triple. So I ran the mod DS. But there is one problem. Unfortunately companion star, not seen as normal stars until they find, as a simple planet. And it's sad. I myself have tried to fix it, but it looks like the changes you need to do in the game engine.

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Reply #7630 August 5, 2012 4:48:06 AM
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FYI--I love the ship graveyards so much that I am making "wrecked ship" models for you.  I have a prototype Kol already done that can use the normal Kol texture or your graveyard ones.  Looks good either way--I've already tried it in game.  You won't have to add textures to the mod--just the meshes.

The Kol as an example has bent antennae, dented armor, blast holes showing internal wrecked machinery, damaged hangar bays--you get the idea.

I'm also going to take some of the smoke, flame, etc. particle effects and add those in too as an option.

An extra would be to add some slight damage edits to the textures for the normal Kol--because my model will match the already existing texture for it, it would be very easy to add some scorch marks and throw in little touches like that.

So this is my spare time hobby.  I'm doing a bit at a time when I have some.

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Reply #7631 August 5, 2012 4:55:22 AM
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Quoting Annatar108,
reply 7630

 But there is one problem. Unfortunately companion star, not seen as normal stars until they find, as a simple planet. And it's sad. I myself have tried to fix it, but it looks like the changes you need to do in the game engine.

I may be misunderstanding what you mean but if you are talking about planets with star meshes not being able to be seen as stars are--there is a easy fix for this (if what you want is for them to be visible at the game start).

Since they are "planets" to the game itself, just create a GalaxyScenarioDef template and add ships by player slot.  Mod in a combat turret ship with no weapons and a self destruct ability that autocasts as part of the planet template.  At game start, each player will see the star and the turrets will vanish.

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Reply #7632 August 5, 2012 5:18:56 AM
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Quoting Sinperium,
reply 7631
FYI--I love the ship graveyards so much that I am making "wrecked ship" models for you.  I have a prototype Kol already done that can use the normal Kol texture or your graveyard ones.  Looks good either way--I've already tried it in game.  You won't have to add textures to the mod--just the meshes.

The Kol as an example has bent antennae, dented armor, blast holes showing internal wrecked machinery, damaged hangar bays--you get the idea.

I'm also going to take some of the smoke, flame, etc. particle effects and add those in too as an option.

An extra would be to add some slight damage edits to the textures for the normal Kol--because my model will match the already existing texture for it, it would be very easy to add some scorch marks and throw in little touches like that.

So this is my spare time hobby.  I'm doing a bit at a time when I have some.

 

This is awesome!!!

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Reply #7633 August 5, 2012 6:06:01 AM
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Here's the mashup sample i did just to see if it could work.  You have to be able to see it in game and rotate the angles to catch a lot of it but some of the effect can be seen here.

I'm working on a much more detailed one now--holes showing the ship interiors, proper seems and the like, etc.

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Reply #7634 August 5, 2012 6:27:03 AM
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Quoting Annatar108,
reply 7630
I was going to make a map of the solar system and nearby stars, but most of the stars that surround us double or triple. So I ran the mod DS. But there is one problem. Unfortunately companion star, not seen as normal stars until they find, as a simple planet. And it's sad. I myself have tried to fix it, but it looks like the changes you need to do in the game engine.

A work around is to use actual stars and not companion stars.  Using the forge, you can group the stars near to each other and set the radius to like 1.  Not the move or exit radius, but the build radius.  The one that puts the white circle around them.  As far as my understanding of the numbers, when zoomed out, you should see the stars grouped near each other.  When zoomed in, they'll be treated as separate systems, but it doesn't really matter if the non main stars are just there and don't have any planets grouped with them, visually, it'll all look the same.  You just won't see planets unless you're on the main star.

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Reply #7635 August 5, 2012 8:04:58 AM
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Quoting Stant123,
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A work around is to use actual stars and not companion stars.  Using the forge, you can group the stars near to each other and set the radius to like 1.  Not the move or exit radius, but the build radius.  The one that puts the white circle around them.  As far as my understanding of the numbers, when zoomed out, you should see the stars grouped near each other.  When zoomed in, they'll be treated as separate systems, but it doesn't really matter if the non main stars are just there and don't have any planets grouped with them, visually, it'll all look the same.  You just won't see planets unless you're on the main star.

The fact that I experimented with a lot of Galaxy Forge and the stars can not be placed side by side. The problem is that if the primary star has a planet, then the z coordinate for the second star is random. And it can not be changed, at least I tried. Perhaps it is written somewhere in the game engine.
I need the stars were very close to each other - "two giant fire visible from the planet, which revolves around them."


Quoting Sinperium,
reply 7632

I may be misunderstanding what you mean but if you are talking about planets with star meshes not being able to be seen as stars are--there is a easy fix for this (if what you want is for them to be visible at the game start).

Since they are "planets" to the game itself, just create a GalaxyScenarioDef template and add ships by player slot.  Mod in a combat turret ship with no weapons and a self destruct ability that autocasts as part of the planet template.  At game start, each player will see the star and the turrets will vanish.


This is exactly what you need. Only now I have to razobratsya. What is this "Mod in a combat turret ship with no weapons and a self destruct ability"? And as this turret placed on the companion star at the start.
As I understand it you need to create a GalaxyScenarioDef planetItemsTemplate for these stars, there should be understand. If you do not complicate, show an example of planetItemsTemplate.

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Reply #7636 August 5, 2012 10:00:40 PM
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Hey Stant, for the values on the planets, 90000 seems big for the stars in game, thinking 75000/60000 would work better ans with the 90k the gravity wells lag with nothing in them for me =X

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Reply #7637 August 5, 2012 11:23:31 PM
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To all the DS crew: I just wanted to say thank you for all the work you have put into this mod. I have been reading this thread for quite a while now and wanted to let you know there are a lot of us out here who play this and are looking forward to any improvements you make. I also could not wait for the Rebellion update. Even though there are a few problems I still love playing this. Its just not the same without Distant Stars! Thanks again and God Bless!


PS: And to Stant, I also hope there is a non-Steam version in the future 'cause your talents have been greatly missed!

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Reply #7638 August 6, 2012 12:29:02 AM
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For developers, DS, may have already talked about this: at the top of the Star Bass Pirate missing textures. Checked the file StarBasePirate.mesh, there seems okay, although not very well versed in the models. Even tried to add the missing texture from the original game in the folder with the mod, did not help. The case is somewhat different.

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Reply #7639 August 6, 2012 12:43:08 AM
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Quoting BadTune,
reply 7637
Hey Stant, for the values on the planets, 90000 seems big for the stars in game, thinking 75000/60000 would work better ans with the 90k the gravity wells lag with nothing in them for me =X

Well, like I said, I just pulled the numbers from a random place and copied them over.  Only had one person run a couple of quick test looks for me to see if it was an improvement over the other pulled from a random place that made the wells too small.  I can't play it to know what works best, I was just guessing, so I'll defer to your judgement there.  Whatever you think works best, so be it.  Though you could also take a look at a few of the galaxy files included with the core game to see what those numbers are, that should help you out a lot in getting to know what they should be like.

I don't know why I just thought of this, but basically, I think the best course of action for you to take with these maps, is copy over a set of the originals and go through those and change the planets to match the planets in the set that comes with DS.  That way you're only changing one entry per planet, rather then 2.  Will cut your time down in half.  Another thing is, if you have a file compare utility that can bring up both files side by side and show you the differences, you can use that to just copy over the DS planets to the copy of the originals, delete the DS maps, and then rename the copies with the DS tag in front.  Then the only ones you'll really have to go through and give the personal touch to are the celestial bodies maps.  Should save you a shit ton of time and effort.

Quoting Phillip Archer,
reply 7638
PS: And to Stant, I also hope there is a non-Steam version in the future 'cause your talents have been greatly missed!

Surprisingly, I've found ways to still help out.  Not as much as I could if I had a copy, but things like running through the maps and meshes and entities and adding in the missing info doesn't require me to have a copy and be able to play.  It's the testing to make sure I got things in there correctly and the bug squashing that requires that.  As long as I have access to testers who can give me the feedback I need when I have stuff available, then my only issue with working on things and completing them in a timely manner would be the fact that I don't get to enjoy the end product, which to a modder, kind of makes it not worth doing.  But I still work on the other three versions of DS, so once I find the motivation to get back on it, a playable vanilla DS will be released, and the Entrenchment version will get it's menu updated so all of the buttons will show up again.

What I spent my time this past week on was I just added in all of the info and made some important changes to Ryat's Flagship minimod after taking a quick peek at the entity manifest courtesy of the reference file set for rebellion and noticing that the Vasari and Advent were given ships labelled battleship2 which is what the minimod uses for the flagships...  So of course, every reference in the minimod needed to be changed out.  Not fun, time consuming, but still completely doable.  I just need to pass it along once I'm sure I got everything and I'm sure it'll be made publicly available.

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Reply #7640 August 6, 2012 3:30:47 AM
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I think there's a bug with with jumping from the grav wells of Stars. My ships are stuck in an endless loop of trying to go to the center of the star and then jump to another. Is it just me, or are the stars much bigger in this mod btw and could that be the reason why they get stuck?

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Reply #7641 August 6, 2012 9:29:40 AM
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Quoting justinian66,
reply 7641
I think there's a bug with with jumping from the grav wells of Stars. My ships are stuck in an endless loop of trying to go to the center of the star and then jump to another. Is it just me, or are the stars much bigger in this mod btw and could that be the reason why they get stuck?

There is a bug involved with that yes. We have been discussing it for a while.

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Reply #7642 August 6, 2012 11:45:20 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
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we have been discussing it for a while.

 

Ahhh, sorry to beat the dead horse. Obviously I havent read through the recent pages.

Also, when the gunship strike fighter returns, will the Titan be able to build them as well as the EWS bombers?

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Reply #7643 August 10, 2012 10:38:21 AM
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Can anyone update this map to work with Rebellion?

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/sins_maps/277/

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Reply #7644 August 10, 2012 6:15:14 PM
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Quoting ShEsHy,
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Can anyone update this map to work with Rebellion?

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/sins_maps/277/[/quote]

here is my beta for a map updater for rebellion and also there is the rebellion map validater(I did not create OR test it so can only mention it)

harpo

 

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Reply #7645 August 11, 2012 6:12:22 AM
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Quoting harpo99999,
reply 7645

Quoting ShEsHy, reply 7644Can anyone update this map to work with Rebellion?

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/sins_maps/277/

here is my beta for a map updater for rebellion and also there is the rebellion map validater(I did not create OR test it so can only mention it)

harpo

 

Thanks, gonna give them both a go.

 

*edit*

Your updater is stuck at processing, and the validator doesn't work (game crashes when switching map categories, just like it does with other non-Rebellion maps)

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Reply #7646 August 11, 2012 7:30:38 AM
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BTW--it appears DS is giving me minidumps on loading the mod or starting with it loaded.  It ran fine on initial install but once the mod was deactivated the dumps began.  I think it is leaving bits and pieces in somehow when it is deactivated which messes up other mods, normal start or trying to reload it.

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Reply #7647 August 11, 2012 11:55:32 AM
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Recommend a full redownload. I had to do that myself.

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Reply #7648 August 11, 2012 6:44:39 PM
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Quoting ShEsHy,
reply 7646

Quoting harpo99999, reply 7645
Quoting ShEsHy, reply 7644Can anyone update this map to work with Rebellion?

https://www.wincustomize.com/explore/sins_maps/277/

here is my beta for a map updater for rebellion and also there is the rebellion map validater(I did not create OR test it so can only mention it)

harpo

 

Thanks, gonna give them both a go.

 

*edit*

Your updater is stuck at processing, and the validator doesn't work (game crashes when switching map categories, just like it does with other non-Rebellion maps)
here is a link to a copy of the map run through my map updater rebel version.

could you email me the info.txt file that was created by the map updater (in the same folder as the map updater was run from) it might help me to eliminate the cause of the not finishing issue

harpo

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Reply #7649 August 11, 2012 9:28:48 PM
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Amazing to see it updated, i'm so happy after the disappointment that was Legends of Pegasus.
I still wish for a miracle patch by Ironclad to solve all these out of memory minidumps once and for all.

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Reply #7650 August 12, 2012 3:27:18 AM
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Quoting Baleurion,
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Amazing to see it updated, i'm so happy after the disappointment that was Legends of Pegasus.
that game looked nice but it is, well i dont even know how too describe how bad it really is....

Thank you that Sins is still the best way too cure disapointment

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