That you have to actually mess with the research entity files.

Thanks Ryat, I really don't want to get that involved at the moment.  Do you know of any mini-mods out there that expand your capital ship units already that would work with DS?

I can whip one up if you want. How high do you want to take it?

made long post. it was deleted.

Let me know if I missed any icon-less maps.

Working on stuff.

Need converter for in-game 3-D models to useable format (using Truespace 7) or bomber, fighter, planetary shield models.

On TS.

That'd be cool.  Maybe double the caps at each level?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4q62on7nnd2317q/CapshipMany.7z

There ya go!

Very much appreciated!  I'll give it a try later tonight

Hey guys how could I disable the music you guys added I love the nilla sins music ALOT an with this mod it be epic.

Not confident in this answer, and I'm not sure it's going to be all you need to do, but you could rummage around in the sounds file for the mod and delete/move the files with names like "Vasari Theme" or "Trouble 1" and the like, but I'm not sure if you'd have to do something with the entity file too. I'm still new to modding, the most I've done was define the .user file so people can further alter settings that aren't included in the options UI. Still trying to get it to fit wide-screen actually, I know it's in there but any changes i make turn to crash with the resolution ~_~

Unrelated: I HATE ATI PROGRAMMERS AND THEIR HALF ASS EFFORTS AT UPDATES!!!    The latest update(snuck in with a windows update) KILLED the Catalyst Control Center so I have NO control over my vid card's settings!!! it might as well be a damned on-board chip-set vid-card now >.<   DAMN YOU AMD!!!! I WANT nVidia BACK!!!!

Ahem.....k I'm done

P.S. : their answer to the many questions of what went wrong on their site is "We are not sure what is broken inside the update".......they really posted something like that.......Amazing PR guy they got there....Maybe next we'll get a post saying that "we are unsure why AMD stocks have plummeted overnight".....yeah group of geniuses work there, you can tell.

Sometimes I think I should have taken a very fresh approach to the lore, rather than come in like I did. Poking through images from one of my favorite sci-fi stories, I found this, which is exactly what I was thinking of.

^ Indeed ... *whistles*

Hey, I remember when that got posted all over the Relic Forums. Makes me miss Homeworld.

I have never seen that pic before, and I still love Homeworld too!

It'd be awesome if the dev team could tell me exactly which files I should delete, move, etc.

Ask Carbon, I think he put the new music in.

In my games, looking at the timeline after - they'll have gotten up to huge fleet sizes quite quickly. Bear in mind, I play on cruel/vicious generally which might have an impact(and I've noticed that they tend to be able to repopulate fleets ridiculously quickly!)

Also, you're right! i5-430

Thanks a lot for the info, I'll give it a go.

Also, anyone able to explain if the more difficult AI is 'smarter' in any way, or just get bonuses to ship/resource production?

Really enjoying the mod regardless  

mini-dumped*groans* own fault, nothin mod related(I clicked an icon too much too fast, windows 7 took it as"oh it broke DESTROY!!" -.-;;   ) i was enjoying black-5 too ;O just finished "starbaseing" all the suns for a 67.5 trade from each , completely ignored by AI =3  

anywho........huh......didn't really have any comments to make besides that....o.o........eh *shrugs and shuffles to the kitchen for coffee*

EDIT: *sipping coffee* I FOUND something to post, did some irrelevant roaming, don't worry I didn't necro anything, dead threads should stay that way ;O. Anyhow there was an idea kind of "produced" in conversation in a thread of "ancient phase gates" and I thought of that"ancient hung of log thing" planet you guys have...but don't put to much use and thought, what if you replaced that, or used a mesh similar to it's style and made a phase gate all could use. Wormholes are great and all but, they aren't too sexy anymore(plus by a scientific point of view, they look like black holes) anyhow it was mentioned setting it's target to all types neutral,enemy,ally but I was thinking, what if you could colonize it as well? or in another approach, just have them appear randomly like asteroids in random gravity wells, give them a "condition" for activation and you have to build an extractor on it/near it/have it attached TO an asteroid even like the Cowboy Bebop/Outlaw Star animes(ahh sweet childhood).

again, just ideas for stuff to make the game a little more interesting.

With regards to the AI: I've noticed that they are a bit better about grouping fleets and that at higher difficulties they tend more toward useful spams (SC and Hoshiko), but they follow the same attack design overall. They do get exponentially growing boosts as you up the AI. Carbon made a thread on it here.

As for the phase gate, memory is still a bit of an issue, so we try to add things that add value to the game. Generally, I would say that wormholes suffice for the job, but if it were possible to make the gates capturable, that might add a new element, especially if the gates required two (much like a wormhole) to work. Then gates could be strategically positioned in games to add a valuable location that would be hard to get to, but generally easier than getting to whatever is striking distance beyond that.

Other thoughts?

would be nice if you could select the destination in -game but I know that's kind of an impossibility, unless you make it a super weapon with instant effect, specific targets(same type other than self) and give it a realistic cool-down maybe a planetary ability. dunno, I just spitball ideas around and they land here lol but it doesn't have to be something super-massive or over complicated, you could just replace one of the planet types you already added, throw in an ability, 0 upgrades unless you want tactical,which would make sense, you would wanna keep your shiny artifact of instant travel safe, but all other values at 0 with no chance of change short of throwing a starbase in there to supplement population/trade depending on the race. With 0 population there shouldn't be any funky elevators making strange appearances(though on the "unity starbase" they look neat with the traffic and all).

Oh, Idea you could make something like the wormhole colonize-able and add the ability mentioned, and make whatever form you want the gate to take into a particle instead of throwing in an entire model, though that might be just as difficult >.>

1. Remove the game.musicdata file from the mod. (GameInfo folder, you'll lose access to 43 sounds as DS uses 77 and vanilla sins uses 34.)
2. In the Sound folder move the following list of files to another location until you've had a chance to run the game without them to make sure it not only works, but that you're happy with the changes:

1. Advent 1
2. Advent 2
3. Advent 3
4. Advent 4
5. Advent 5
6. Advent 6
7. Advent Announcement
8. Advent Battle
9. Advent Battle 2
10. Advent Quiet
11. Advent Quiet 2
12. Advent Sad
13. Advent Theme
14. Battle 1
15. Battle 2
16. Battle 3
17. Battle 4
18. Battle 5
19. Battle 6
20. Battle 7
21. Battle 8
22. Battle 9
23. Battle 10
24. Battle 11
25. Battle 12
26. Battle 13
27. Battle 14
28. Battle 15
29. Battle 16
30. Battle 17
31. Battle 18
32. Battle 19
33. Battle 20
34. Battle 21
35. Battle 22
36. Battle 23
37. Battle 24
38. Battle 25
39. Battle 26
40. Battle 27
41. Battle 28
42. Battle 29
43. Opening Theme
44. Quiet 1
45. Quiet 2
46. Quiet 3
47. Quiet 4
48. Quiet 5
49. Quiet 6
50. Quiet 7
51. Quiet 8
52. Quiet 9
53. Quiet 10
54. Quiet 11
55. Quiet 12
56. Quiet 13
57. Quiet 14
58. Quiet 15
59. Quiet 16
60. Quiet 17
61. Quiet 18
62. Quiet 19
63. Quiet 20
64. Sad 1
65. Sad 2
66. Sad 3
67. Sad 4
68. Sad 5
69. TEC 1
70. TEC 2
71. TEC 3
72. TEC 4
73. TEC Announcement
74. TEC Opening
75. TEC Quiet
76. TEC Theme
77. Trouble 1
78. Trouble 2
79. Trouble 3
80. Trouble 4
81. Trouble 5
82. Trouble 6
83. Trouble 7
84. Trouble 8
85. Trouble 9
86. Trouble 10
87. Trouble 11
88. Trouble 12
89. Trouble 13
90. Trouble 14
91. Upbeat 1
92. Upbeat 2
93. Upbeat 3
94. Upbeat 4
95. Upbeat 5
96. Upbeat 6
97. Upbeat 7
98. Upbeat 8
99. Upbeat 9
100. Vasari 1
101. Vasari 2
102. Vasari 3
103. Vasari 4
104. Vasari 5
105. Vasari 6
106. Vasari Announcement
107. Vasari Battle
108. Vasari Sad
109. Vasari Theme
110. Vasari Trouble

That should be everything to make the game revert back to the originals.  If it doesn't crash, just delete all of those files you removed and you're good to go, if it does crash, then put the faction named ones back in and try it again.

As a side note, there's a lot of stuff in there that probably didn't need to be packaged with the mod...

Bad boy! *swats on the nose with a newspaper*  Most of us are modders here, some more knowledgeable then others, but still, don't discount someone simply because they are not named by one project or another.  BadTune was actually pretty close to having the correct answer, he just didn't detail it out, so +1 for that.

We can and already did: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/378050/page/2/#2861609  Same as the one Draak posted while I was typing this up, but directly to the post of what it is they do and by how much with a longer explanation.

That is possible actually.  Not sure if the other races would be able to use them besides the Vasari even after a capture, but I can't think of any reason why they shouldn't be able to.  The only issue I see is in a random game that only has one Ancient planet thing.  Makes it kind of useless.  But to map makers would be another element to add to maps.

Also possible, however it's starting to give me the feel of StarGate rather then just  dealing with an old gate system in place.

True, i suppose it would make more sense to have set exits to gate like that, easier to implement that way too. But hey, there's an idea for the stargate guys and their mod lol. Think changing the wormhole mesh into a gate of some kind would work then? Wormholes do have a rotation though you can't really see it*wonders if removing that rotation could save a slight bit of memory in-case there's "faces" to a wormhole* Though you may have to throw the particle on it's side and have it rotate like that, maybe sink it under the center line a bit so ships won't pass through "solid" pieces of gate. maybe you could use the atmosphere layer to place the particle mesh while leaving the wormhole-whatzits in tact and get rid if it's un-sexy sparkles and gas, or just the gas(purple-ish blue crap floating into the center). aaaand I have been awake almost 28 hours now.....I'm worried i may only be creative when I'm exhausted seeing as all my posts that have some relative sense and or ideas to them only happen around this time >.>     should probably get coffee..need to stay awake till 7 at least.........darn bookstore and college.....break took too long, my sleep schedule got all wonky -.-;;

Edit: I went and had a good idea for a cap or flagship but i think it would be kind of tedious to implement. Any race would fit it since they all use beams but fine tuning it is coming up kinda muddy in my head. the idea is based off a merge between missile barrage and cleansing brilliance, but no 360 range, only one direction, randomly selected multiple targets, those between the targets and the craft(in the path of the beam) will suffer equal damage as the target so it's more of a level six skill than a 1-3. Anyway, if it's too powerful you could cause the ship to suffer something as a cost of usage, maybe 10% hull lost(intense head from the weapon's discharge deforming the barrels[yay homeworld comic posted above]). I could see this happening for a TEC vessel since, historically humans have erred more towards"Take you with me" but Advent are kind of like that too in an, extremist revenge sort of way. Basically it's a skill for an act of desperation, you could make it's damage high and take more hull or all anti-matter, something like this needs a very long cool-down so it can't be abused, and if possible a usage condition for the hull to already be at about 50% as to make it useful in desperate situations. Sorry if all this is impossible but I got to thinking about it when I was reading a bit of the lore again and looking over a few more forums. You could give each race it's own version of this for balance sake. The Flagships are high-power to begin with so a normal level 6 would seem like a mundane upgrade on a capital ship. Was thinking this might make things a little interesting with "lose your ship and take theirs with you and keep the planet, or run to fight again later." Besides, you think any human's gonna run seein that Vasari monster floating around their home, ready to practice their drawing abilities on the face of their planet with a high powered bombardment lazer? pssh They'd smack a starbase into it if they could but this seems more within the realm of possibilities, for any of the races

THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER WALL OF TEXT BROUGHT TO YOU BY ME!!!! THANK YOU!!*falls off stage into the band*

I didn't discount, I'd already had that idea in my head, but didn't want to just go rummaging through the files without a sure idea of what I was doing, now I have that. Karma will be givin. Thank you BadTune, Thank you Stant123.

even in stargate you need 2. And having one that could exit anywhere would make the Vasari super weapon less super. I would say just rehash the wormhole coding with a capture function, like a derelict mine. Poof, done.

Btw, if you liked the above tribute, you might recognize this battle. Seriously, I should have just RPed a pilot.

OMG please tell me where you are getting those comic strips!

Also, and I am sorry if this was already asked, but will this mod be further developed for the Rebellion expansion?

Your devoted fan, Aliksander