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Malice

How does it work?

January 17, 2009 4:23:24 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Hi everyone!

Lately I've been playing with my beloved Advent, and during all those games I am confused about the Mailce ability (I almost always get the Mothership as the first cap). In the description, it's written that all enemy crafts that receive damage share 30% of it (after/before modifiers - doesn't matter) to all other enemy ships in the radius. That said, I wonder, why I am always forced to select an enemy ship before I can use this ability. This way, it seems that only damge from ONE ship will be divided onto other ones.

Thanks in advance for any clarifications.

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Reply #1 January 17, 2009 6:34:11 PM
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I doubt anyone will clarify this for you.  The way malice used to work was great. The way it works now is confusing.

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Reply #2 January 17, 2009 7:09:53 PM
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I do understand that malice used on multiple targets does give 30% damage Propogation. I don't understand the second part of your post though...

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Reply #3 January 17, 2009 10:30:11 PM
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This is hiw I think malice works now.  You target one ship. that ship and those around it get effected by malice.  The ship you targeted will be the main target to deal damage too.  Let's say you deal 1000 damage to it.  Malice effect ends.  All ships that were effected by malice will recieve 300(30%) damage.  I'm not sure if armor/mitigation effects this damage, but I believe it does so that damage is greatly reduced to damage dealt to more like 100-150 or even less depending on mitigation. 

Malice supposedly got cheaper and has a lower cooldown, so it can be used more often so I guess thats a plus now.

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Reply #4 January 17, 2009 11:08:21 PM
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I usually turn malice of so I can use all of my mothership's precious Antimater on shield restore, though it could be worthwhile in large fleet battles where you can do ALOT of damage in the time frame. Otherwise, I haven't noticed it to be worth while, especially as the decreased cooldown will take out your antimater that much faster.

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Reply #5 January 17, 2009 11:54:25 PM
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malice only works on one ship until u upgrade it then it works on multiple ships with the number of ships increasing as the upgrades increase

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Reply #6 January 18, 2009 8:26:18 AM
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GoaFan, it is not worth the antimatter.  Unless you really micro it you will most likely only do 50% of the DPS because the duration is too short.  What happens is unless your ships are alreayd facing a target that willg et maliced and they had their weapon cooldown finish just as you cast malice, you will most likely get only 1 shot off during the duration of Malice.  Which is terrible.

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Reply #7 January 18, 2009 10:00:33 AM
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Malice will always cost 50 AM, last 8 seconds, and have a 10 second cooldown. The improvement you get is the number of targets affected (8/16/24).

From my understanding, the damage taken by ANY ship is added up by Malice, then when the effect expires, 30% of the total damage that all of these ships took is dealt to them again. Its deadly when used with Cleansing Brilliance on the Radiance.

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Reply #8 January 18, 2009 1:14:35 PM
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So you have to use it right before cb which is hard because cb has a charge up time.Right?

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Reply #9 January 18, 2009 4:32:08 PM
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I don't think it's really that hard to use this ability.  People who say the duration is too short are probably using this ability with poor micromanagement.  you should make sure your ships ready and able to fire on the targeted units before you use this to begin with.

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Reply #10 January 18, 2009 10:56:08 PM
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CB has a charge time of 2 seconds and a duration of 8 seconds, so if you can count time accurately, order the Radiance to fire on a target which can withstand the 2000 damage CB will do over those 8 seconds (preferably a capital ship, though with the huge hull and shield buffs to light carriers, those could work), count 2 seconds and cast Malice immediately.

Really, capital abilities work most optimally when microed properly. Malice could also work if you have lots of ships pouring on damage really quickly, but since ships tend to focus fire, its far less effective than used with an AoE attack.

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Reply #11 January 19, 2009 12:10:10 AM
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Sounds like they should give you at least 4 or 5 seconds of play in there. Counting it down to the second is crazy.

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Reply #12 January 19, 2009 9:43:06 AM
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Thanks. I think I'm gonna have to check it closely in-game. Cheers!

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