Really only useful if your caps are needed elsewhere.

I will say this however: AI seige rushes were really annoying early game before the nerf.

I'm more concerned with how they are now rather than how they used to be

Waste of resources IMO.

You can turn auto-attack off and just micromanage them and they really don't belong in contested gravity wells, anyway.

I think they're fine the way they are; otherwise they could end up being overpowered.  They definitely have their uses.

I recently got the game, and got a similar impression about siege frigates.   They seem way too expensive and too fragile to justify investing in them.  Maybe if your opponent doesn't scout, and has multiple undefended fringe worlds, then they'll be a useful part of a small harassing strike force, but I've found that even a tiny amount of defense (like, the amount you put in to damage passing scouts...) can ward off unsupported siege vessels, and even if those siege vessels have backup you'll probably lose several before the defenders are neutralized, buying time for reinforcements to arrive.

Five siege frigates will cost you more than a capital ship.  Personally, I'd rather sink a little extra to get the upgrade and just bring out a battleship or dreadnaught type which can not only bombard planets, but also kill whatever is defending them.

Too expensive (cost & supply wise). Too fragile. And while you got your Caps, who needs 'em?

SF? Too expensive, weak, mostly defenseless.. tend to charge ahead to their doom. An almost useless specialist ship. I only use it if i need my capital ships elsewhere... but 99% of the time i dont bother.

idea ..

What i would like to see are some way to invade planets.. you could have the choice: bombard or invade.. bombarding is a lot quiker but blows up all infrastructure, population and upgrades.. and is long and costly to re-build and colonisation might fail if ennemy culture is too strong

Invading could give you part of the upgrades (like everything drops 1 or 2 levels) on the planet, takes much longer, it kills ennemy population only (as if pop = ground military force) and will succeed even when ennemy culture is strong..

Siege ships weren't a viable game ender in 1.0, and they're nearly entirely pointless now. Use capital ships. They live longer, hit harder, and some have special abilities that will put infrastructure to shame.

Wow 20 siegies, that's like giving your oponnent a free lvl 6 cap, all he has to do is catch them with his cap ship and his carrier fleet.  65 xp x 20 = 2600 xp lol

A couple hangar defense can easily take care of those random SF attacks the AI does.

Imo, SF should be a half heavy cruiser, and a half bomber. Keep the low planetary damage, leave the supply cost alone, but make their shields/hulls tougher and double their useless non-bombing damage. Or, at least, make them hit harder on the structures, OR able to host 1 squadron of bombers (only bombers).

The good example of how a planetary bomber should be (in a smaller scale ofc) is the vulkoras desolator. Can hold his own vs other caps, not the best tho, but has bombing + structures abilities to assign.

Me I said ti before and will repeat seiges did need a nerf but they were over nerfed. To unover nerf them i would only cut down the cost to produce them. They are very expensive for the limited role they play now, makign them cheaper would make them more commont and a more viable option, but not game breaking like they were.

Buducles instal a fresh retail copy of sins, no patch no updates just fresh out of the box. You will be the game breakign i am talking about.

I played against the AI (hard) before I patched, and while I found siege frigates a persistant danger that required careful defensive planning, they weren't gamebreaking by a longshot.  Now, I haven't seen what a player can do with 1.00 siege frigates, but powerful does not mean gamebreaking.  Personally, I'd rather they'd have buffed the planet hit point upgrades (maybe making it add 2500 at each level rather than 1500) than nerf siege frigates into the ground. 

I don't like the idea of adding bombers to siege frigates, personally.  The problem right now is that they're not fulfilling their role because they're too fragile and deal minimal damage, so it doesn't matter how much backup you send with them as a result.  Giving them a bomber squadron just gives them more backup, but doesn't change the problem that they're too weak to benefit from that backup.