Impulse Question

IE7 is required for Impulse, Impulse is required for patching.

I've never liked Internet Explorer since hackers love exploiting the poor thing. Go for Mozilla Firefox. That's the web browser I use and it works fine with Impulse.

Get firerfox

You can use Firefox all day long but why would you not upgrade to IE7?  XP is very vulnerable with just IE6.  IE7 is a lot more secure.  IE is not just a browser, it's a critical component of the operating system.  So upgrade to IE7 so you have the latest XP security patches and keep on using Firefox happily.

Basically you are dumb and just asking for security problems if you don't keep IE updated, even if you never use it.

Did it ever occur to you people that some people use neither IE6 OR IE7?

Just because someone doesn't want to install IE7 doesn't mean they're some backwards hick using IE6.

Even then so what, a lot of people still use IE6 and there's really no reason you should have to install IE7 to use required software. It's not a matter of using an unsecure web browser, it's we can't do anything with Sins because we don't have IE7 and don't want it.

As the above poster said, whether or not you use it is completely irrelevant. If you have Windows, you have it. If you have Windows and IE6, you're shooting yourself in the foot because IE6 is notorious for security issues. Whether you're on Firefox or Opera or Chrome or whatever, you should update to IE7.

Your argument is like complaining that you bought a car but can't go anywhere because it needs gas. It's not like the IE7 requirement is some fishy archaic software that you don't know where it's been. You don't have to like it (people certainly don't like paying for gas :P) but it's integrated into Windows, so it's there.

If your hatred for MS and IE goes as far as willingly leave your computer with more vulnerabilities and pass up on great games, well, that's your choice

Feel free to continue making snobby replies about how people that don't want to install IE7 are morons who don't know anything about computers. My SoaSE box doesn't say I have to install IE7 to receive support. Steam doesn't require it either.

It would be impossible to explicitly list everything you need to have installed to run and keep the game up to date. Should it also say that you need a chair, desk, power, etc?

When developing software that runs on consumer computers connected to the internet, it is not an unfair assumption that the computer will have all the platform security updates. If you don't use IE at all anyway, then IE7 is purely a security update for you.

There are still a couple sparse corporate/academic sites that still require IE6 because of poor coding, but this was not a reason you mentioned. What you said is that you simply don't want to install IE7... because you just don't want to install IE7. I agree with the other people that the position is pretty nonsensical.

No it doesn't. But that changes nothing in my post.

If you're running XP, you're using IE, right now. Even if you don't think you are. Tons of apps embed IE in them to do things.

This complaint is effectively the same as saying "the box didn't say it requires Service Pack 3 or updated video drivers!" Its total nonsense.

Nobody is telling you that you need to use IE as your browser of choice. But do you have to actually keep Windows updated? Absolutely. Guess what, the core of IE is an OS component. It's been a critical update for months, if not a year now.

The complaint is we don't want to install IE7, all your rambling on about "you have to do it anyway for windows" have nothing to do with the fact Impulse shouldn't require IE7. I personally don't want to install IE7, and 99% of the time nothing else requires it either.

In fact Impulse doesn't actually require IE7, only the installer refuses to install unless it's present, the actual functions of impulse run perfectly well with firefox. This is the complaint. From the amount of other complaints about Impulse on this forum I'd say the problems go far beyond.

You're still just repeating yourselves and being smug and insulting, I guess you can't expect real help from any internet forum without browser war idiocy or IT know-it-alls talking down to you instead of helping. I guess my only choice is to not give stardock anymore money and leave.

Which you helped start. And you still don't understand.

But the bottom line is Impulse isn't going to change. If it means that much to you, then your only choice is to not give them any more money and leave, as you say.

Sigh. No it doesn't. If you don't have IE7, it's using IE6. It never uses Firefox for anything.

If you complain to support, maybe they can remove the dependency. But coming here and proclaiming that you're being wronged because you don't want to install critial Windows updates is just idiotic. (And yeah, its a real shame when people who know what they're talking about tell you why you're wrong.)

Firefox doesn't work with Impulse. Would require a lot of extra coding with poorly documented Gecko. Would also severely increase the download size.

Not really sure where that came from.