Sins of a Solar Empire takes a long time to complete some (or most) games, so actually 99% of the time, someone who leaves too early isn't a pussy, they're just going to get some. (Only thing I can think of that gets me away from sins.)

Seriously though, good point, the AI is by no means incompetent in Sins, and can hold its own if you leave it in a decent enough situation.  And if nothing else, it's a distraction.

Well I think what new players need to be educated on is when to quit and when to surrender. I played a 2v2v2 the otherday on a Medium large. 3 players quit, one disconnected, and then I was left having to bulldoze through 3 Ai to get to the last remaining opponent on the other side of the map! I ended up just sending my fleet trhough and capturing a roid on the otherside to launch attacks from, but I pissed off all the Ais in the process.

Personally I'd rather players surrender than quit, but I understand instances where quitting would be preferred. I just hate seeing people whose wins and losses don't add up to even half the games played. I generally don't play with those kinds of people.

Rather than spread the quitting message perhaps you should spread the fact that players should stay in the game until they truly have nothing left and no chance at survival, and that LOSING YOR CAP early game does not mean game over. I've played several games AND WON THEM where my cap was taken out early. The above mentioned 2v2v2 was one of them.

Yea I agree completely.

So many things can happen to give you quit stats. Forexample , you zoom out only to find theres 3 stars. "multi?" , "aaah shit!" , "re!!"

Also , I dont believe in Stats . I only believe in reputation of the players name

I do agree with you. Stuff happens like disconnects, minidumps and drops. I personally have record that has several. And you've obviously been playing for awhile when minidumps were common. But for newer players.. eh, I just feel that its less excusable. Perhaps I wasn't clear on my point though, its this. Surrender when you've truly been beaten.

Maybe it boils down to this then. If you're playing with teams and must leave, quit. If you're playing a FFA and you've been bested, Surrender.

There are instances in which surrendering is the right thing to do. I just dislike people who quit as a means to avoid admition of defeat (in terms of stats).

I also agree with you. Stats mean little in this game, which is why losses are also OK to have. Really though, quitters suck. One should stay with a team until the team is defeated, not just the player. So long as you have the means to build some ships, or collect some resources, or even deal a little damage or cause distraction, you are still important to your allies.

And another idiot noob.

This time nebstar

Surrenders with 3 intact planets including a homeworld thats producing 15 credits per tick.

Why?

luckily the enemy decided to finish off his planets rather then just ignore him and treat the game like a 3v4