What are the Refinery Quotas (mechanics)

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I always wonder what are the Refinery Quotas When you're passinbg ur Mouse over an extractor (Ex. refinery Quata 4/3). I just wonder how the mechanics of those quotas working.

 

I play Sins for about a year now and still havent figured that out.

I've search in Forums, didnt find anything.

Thx

 

p.s. Im a french speaking person so sorry for my VERY bad english

 

 

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

Each resource asteroid can be supported by up to three refineries.  The refinery quota tells you how many refineries are helping this asteroid.  Any number above 3 doesn't increase resource production at all.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

Wow ... thx alot for that fast respond

 

Now i can Put my refinery in a good way.... tyty

 

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

Neutral extractors can support 4 refineries, once you capture them.

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting InfiniteVoid, reply 3
Neutral extractors can support 4 refineries, once you capture them.
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How are you building the refineries with no tactical slots?

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

refineries can go to the next gravwell as well.

Therefore if you have a colonized system and and a gas giant (just a random pick) next to it with neutral extractors then the refeneries atthe colonized system will also go to the gas giant.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

How are you building the refineries with no tactical slots?
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A refinery affects the gravwell it is in and all neighboring gravwells 1 phase jump away.  Therefore a neutral extractor can support up to 4 refineries in neighboring gravwells.

Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

The best idea is to build them at planets with at least 3 phase lanes to locations you have extractors. That way you get a better return on investment. Of course you could put them on every planet, but if you are short of slots, it is best to selectively place them.

Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top

A refinery affects the gravwell it is in and all neighboring gravwells 1 phase jump away. Therefore a neutral extractor can support up to 4 refineries in neighboring gravwells
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So what i do understand (i didnt know that) is that a Neutral extracotr 2 phases jumps away from the nearest Refinery wont get any bonus quota?

 

(grrr.... this is what im REALLY not ready for MP. X|

Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Moonchild333, reply 8
 

So what i do understand (i didnt know that) is that a Neutral extracotr 2 phases jumps away from the nearest Refinery wont get any bonus quota?

 

(grrr.... this is what im REALLY not ready for MP.
End of Moonchild333's quote

 

Correct. Here's an explanation of how refineries work, with a little map for reference.

 

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/342953/page/1/#2097186

Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top

I really do not understand how the Advent Refinery system works. I was messing around with it yesterday. So i bought the upgrade to the trade port...built an extra one on my planet which had 2 crystal and one metal extractor and then converted the extra port to the refinery setting. Then I moused over the extractors expecting to see one of the quota's taken up. However I didn't see one...but I did see a line saying something about percent of usage or something. So can someone explain how the Advent system works...cause when i mouse over the crystal and metal resource window it doen't show me the extra gain per planet as it does with TEC....does that mean im doing something wrong?

Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top

The Advent refinery mode for their trade port doesn't work off the quota thing. It's just a percentage increase to resource production in its own grav well (it doesn't spread to neighbor planets). The percentage increase can also be raised by more research in that line, and it stacks so you can have multiple trade ports boosting it.

Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Codan, reply 10
I really do not understand how the Advent Refinery system works.
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The short answer is the Advent refinery system works.. badly.  The longer answer...

Unlike TEC and Vasari, the refinery oriented Advent trade ports are only affected by extractors in their system, not adjacent ones.

The advent can use their trade ports for trade or ore/crystal, but not both.

If you assume 1 ore/crystal = 5 credits, you should never use it till you've got it researched to 17%, then only on planets with 4 extractors.  Once you research it to 25%, its worthwhile on planets with 3 extractors.  This assumes 100% allegience at the planet.  If your allegiance is lower... just don't use it!   If your allegiance is higher, and you're at 25%, you can go with it economically at 2 extractor planets.

If you're below these thresholds, its better to use the trade port to generate credits rather than resources.

 

The TEC and Vasari refineries are much more efficient, since they pull in from adoining planet extractors.  The breakeven is 3.33 extractors.  Hence the viable strategy of just putting one refinery in each gravwell works with little thought, or you can micro your placement with great precision to nudge your return up a little.

 

 

Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top

building one on each GW wat my strategis when iwrote that. until that stupid quota came up whit some 4/3 quota.

 

its pretty much money lost.

 

Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top

Typically it's not worth paying for the research costs of Advent resource focus.  If you have a bunch of 4-extractor planets near your homeworld, it might be worthwhile, but usually the returns are so marginal over the basic trade port that it won't pay for the upgrade cost.

Reply #15 from Sins Forums Top

Though you may have 4/3 in one grav well, that refinery may be needed there to get 3/3 at a different grav well.