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Is he Elrosh

This whole name & shame is ridiculous. Its a game, treat it as such. There is more PvP hostility on Sins than i have observed on any other online game. Seriously... what is the point of this name & shame? It helps nobody when you can just make another account name whenever you feel like it. This harsh post is just about you getting revenge on a player that you don't like. Nice. Very nice.

Yeah, I have my own do not play list. It's personal, and it has V3nge on it for making up a fake excuse to quit after his rush failed.  And then whispering my ally to leave as well.  Nice...  So were you friends with my ally all along? WTF was the point of playing then?  BTW your ally at least manned up and tried to fight me.

I would have taken this seriously until i saw "I friended you bro".  Now it just sounds like a lover's spat when one realizes that the other person isn't what he thought he was and now out of bitter feeling of betrayal speaks ill of his former lover because deep inside he wants to be together with him again. (also for future reference it's befriended.  It's a bit odd i know  but friended isn't a real word)

Now on a serious note, Venge it right, there is no point to doing this other than making yourself feel better both cathartically and by having other members take your side (thus increasing the validation of your hurt feelings).  One of the downsides is that it makes you look more like a geek since you have taken such an in-game event so personally, (when irrelevant leisure activities effect your mood negatively, it's time to take a break).  Not trying to be inflammatory but this post is pretty silly.

what is this?  Middle school?

I would say kindergarden whinning!

Astax, I think JJ and I just played a game with this guy on our team.  I will have to go and check the replay, but if that's him, he was a real jerk.  He was getting his ass kicked, and when I sent a fleet up to help him, he screamed at me for "leading the enemy fleet to him."  He also blamed JJ for "trading planets" with the guy he was fighting (Z00MERS).

I'll go and check the replay, but do tell your story with this "Elrosh."  I'm tired of meeting jerks online.

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think about it tho one win was so important to this guy that it took him 11 hrs to quit that is really sad. which one should be considered the geek?

In my mind, both SIAUTUS and you have been blacklisted. You have presented an immaturity leval on par with him.

To set this straight, I would never play out a game like that out of spite....unless it was a ffa and many people were still alive. and to agent of kharma. JJ trading planets led to his death, obviously a very stupid and IMO, newb move. As for you, you kept building carriers long after your opponent built the counter, and you were just leading his fleet everywhere as you ran from him. You so happened to led him to my fleet as i was regrouping, which led to my losing a large portion of it. Stratigically you fleet was useless, not to mention many of your tactics resulted in losing. As for myself well, i over estimated my allies, and under ustimated my opponent getting reinforced from way accross the map and my partners.

Yup, it was "Elrosh" all right.  Just watched the replay.  And here he is, posting.  Why didn't you warn us about him earlier, Astax?

Not that I care to pollute the forums with elementary school BS, or dignify this a-hole with a response, but just to set the record straight, I didn't "keep building carriers long after my opponent built the counter."  What happened was, the carriers were the only things that kept surviving after everything else got killed.  Secondly, I teched to returning armada (woo-hoo!), and it kept spawning carriers for me, and the odd assailant or skirmisher which would of course die.  So that's how I ended up with a mass of carriers and little else (did eventually accumulate a small herd of enforcers, however).

As for old "Elrosh," in watching the replay he actually played okay (I hate to admit it).  He had his guy, who was on my northern flank, on the ropes early, and tied him up so that I could deal with south.  But the fact is, the dude clawed his way back, driving Elrosh back off his turf, and then hitting me in my undefended northern flank which "Elrosh" was supposed to be protecting, ensuring that I had to fight a two front war (the only guy in the game who did).  Thus, instead of driving south back, which I was slowly doing (took two of his worlds), I was suddenly losing planets having to fight a two front war.

Elrosh played okay, but he isn't a team player, and as you can see, he is quick to start blaming everyone else for his losses but himself.  He blames JohnJames, and he blames me.

Please don't hold it against Siautas, I'm sure he is not a bad perosn and he did it for teh LuLz only.

Hey Siautas I'm adding you as friend when I log into ICO. Consider adding me as friend so we can team up in online games and cause incredible amounts of lolz.

Sins 101 Nevar forget....

It can't always be about the lulz....

(Can it???)

Nice to know, added on my personal blacklist.

But in Sins system smurf is just too easy....

Is Sins an exception to the rule that name calling and blackmailing other players on forums and ingame is forbidden?

Even if this other player was a total jerk, you cannot do such things! Tell your friends, but make no fuss in a lobby or the forums.

Yeah you kinda' did it in an asshole way.  Calling out the player like you did.  So he made a game for you difficult in the end, big deal.  I mean, I know I wouldn't like to play someone like that, but there could be a more... tactful way to tell everyone about him.  A forum post is fine though.

"could choose between quitting honorably or carrying on a timewasting charade like a crybaby loser, and if he chose the latter, I'd alert the lobby and forums of his poor behavior to prevent other players from falling for his childish traps."

Please tell me you didn't say that in even close to those exact words.  Because if you had said something like that to me, I may just play the game to the end out of spite too (but let's face it, who really has the time for something like that?).  This could be setting a precedence where people start blackmailing opponents into quitting just so they don't get a bad rep from a more well known player.  I can see it now:  Player A plays a game with Player B.  The game doesn't go the way Player A likes, so he starts saying that he's going to trash Player B's reputation in the forum if he doesn't quit.

Staying in a game out of spite should not be tolerated of course.  But also should we tolerate posts like this?  Word would get out in the ICO lobbies reguardless of any posts on this forum.

What is "lulz" or "lolz?"

lots of lols or something

i agree with exterm. if that came up in a game i would do it out of spite. i and most other players would hate it if the blackmailing system started. but if u have a bad rep u could just change ur name, one of the upsides of the smurf system. another is that new players can change their name often untill they have a firm footing in the game and start building a rep. btw, could we get the replay?

If Elrosh is guilty of anything its not giving up. I played a 4v4 with him yesterday - he went 2v1 most of the game and helped bankroll my recovery after being outplayed in the first 2 hours of the game. He's not the most communicative player for sure but he has a good understanding of what constitutes a winnable game. He won't toss in the towel just because the other side is up slightly or progress is slow.

I haven't played with Elrosh much nor can I speak of the matter quoted but I thought some one ought to toss in a good word where it was needed. In general sins is a long game, entrenchment makes it even longer and it seems to me that some of us need to adjust our aproximations of what constitutes a winnable game to fit that time scale.

As far as the problem of players stalling defeat is concerned, there's really nothing to be done about it. Unless Ironclad sees fit to alter the winning conditions for MP, simply evading opponents is a viable strategy. In real life its called an insurgency - and its the staple of gorrilla warfare. When you can't take your opponent head on you hit them hard and fast at their weak points and get out. If you can't stomp out the risistance quickly by breaking your fleets up or locking down territory with culture then perhaps the insurgent deserves to win for out manuvering a foe that ought to be able to crush them.

What we need is that we need identification system based on CD-key and/or Impulse account to eliminate smurf problem.

I've played with siatus twice, both times he left really early because things weren't gonig his way even the the game was far from being called.

Who is this dog Sins 101?  Isn't that the cretin who spammed the Lobby incessantly?  Glad he was banned.

I don't see anything objectionable about Quincnux's initial post if it's truthful.

Yes. Snoop is keeping his memory alive due to the lulz he provided...