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Okay, here's what you do for this game: You have to "ban" the person who posted above you for an outrageous, silly, or funny reason. Got it?
Maybe not, but that raises into question the importance of the Spirit in taking the form of Jesus. What's 32 years of suffering to an eternity in Heaven?
Banned for theological dilemmas.
Banned because we're all going to Heaven as I see it. That's right, I ain't no evangelical. 
banned for Barney religion
o_0 Huh? I think that goes along with the trinitarian idea that was introduced into main Christianity in about the 4th Century CE.
Banned because now Vasari is visually OP compared to the other factions. Sort it out!
If I knew how, I'd try to make an Advent flagship, but then again...
banned for making me come in here time after time after time after time to ban you.
Banned for abbreviations
No, I mean that the Spirit takes a knock when you consider than an eternal being was given a chance to suffer for 30 years, a miniscule cost to become God's right hand.
banned for slow mornings
Heb. 5:8 - Jesus learned from his sufferings.
banned for not knowing we are all eternal beings.
banned for following ancient greek philosophy
Ezekiel 18:4 - The soul that is sinning it itself will die.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 -The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead they are conscious of nothing at all.
banned for quotes.
Yes, a lot of other philosophies have made a mess of the original Jewish ideas, such as there being three souls and the mortality, or immortality of each. Meanwhile, so much is made of Jesus' death, when I can't help but think that more focus should be put on the temptations, which made him worthy of taking on the burden of man. Maybe that's just a very Jewish approach to it. Then again, we don't have the 'devil' and the whole forbidden fruit thing is read quite differently.
banned for devil is based off of a greek word (I believe diablo) that means slanderer and is often used in conjunction in the greek scriptures with satan based on a hebrew word for resister which is also found in the hebrew scriptures
by the way, what it the Jewish read on the forbidden fruit thing?
banned for Hebrew literally translates Shaitan as The Adversary, but it doesn't mean the adversary of God as much as man. In Judaism, he never fell, rather he's an angel charged with presenting a man's sins before God upon death, something of a prosecuting attorney. The idea is that God is forgiving and tends to give us the benefit of the doubt.
The Jewish reading is that evil originates with man, not an external being. Although it has been surmised that the serpent is the Adversary in disguise, it's not as a cruel being attempting revenge. Think of this way: God creates man and gives them free will, which blinds him to any ability to predict our future, in spite of omniscience. God tells Adam and Eve to do something and they do it. He automatically assumes they're doing it because they're good. The Adversary proposes that man is not purely good, rather that it has yet to know the full realm of its possibilities. It's like having one person in your life tell you what you should do without any other influence. As something of a test, The Adversary introduces a second option, one which goes against God's wish. Man goes that route, which God doesn't take too well, but it is still man's choice. This introduces the first concept of evil, which not only convinces God that man is not deserving of reward unless he earns it, but also tells him that things like mortality are necessary components to educating a creature with free will. Imagine how slow we would be to learn if there were no consequences, such as death? Man is not wholly damned. There is no Hell in Judaism, but when one goes to Heaven, there is a potential distance the spirit will reside from God. The more sin, the greater the distance, and thus the less fulfilling Heaven is. Heaven is not inherently all pleasure. The other option is the Grave, when one has done things so unspeakable that their soul is removed from existence, considered the ultimate punishment. What the limit to this is still under debate. And keep in mind that the idea of the Messiah, in Judaism, is not to take on the sins of man, as each is responsible for his sins only, not those of his parents or ancestors, despite their sins shaping the world he lives in. Man has no need to collectively repent for the fruit of knowledge. This idea was later adopted by certain branches of Christianity, largely from Germanic heritage.
Banned for my view. I am one of those who view the Old Testament and much of the rest of the Bible as a spiritual thing, not a definitive history book. I don't believe that there is a slightly-less-omnipotent entity whispering in our ears trying to make us do bad things, nor do I believe that angels pop down from Heaven to have a chat. I think that many take the Bible, and some other religious texts, too literally. However, feel free to disagree, this is only the view of me, one person in 7 billion, and I don't expect everyone else to believe what I do.
banned for I agree to a degree. *snickers*
There are historical aspects of the bible, but as I said on... this or the last person thread (I forget which), there are many rabbis who totally understand that times change and the bible gets pretty fantastic, thus it should be taken as a series of lessons and all. Granted, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are pretty rule intensive.
Now I have to find my quote from before...
Banned because I've just remembered this guy who sometimes comes and "preaches" at the clocktower where most of my year eats their lunch on school days. By preaching I mean that he stands there and basically says, over and over again, "if you do not accept Jesus as your sole saviour you will go to hell!"
Sorry, but last I checked, shouldn't God be pretty good at forgiving?
So if I live a perfectly selfless life but never hear about Jesus, or simply don't acknowledge him as the Messiah, I go to hell? Sounds like bull to me.
Banned for talking is fun!
Besides, I think you just feel left out.
Some hardcore Jewish groups tend to get very exclusionary, a major issue throughout Jewish history. However, most Orthodox rabbis I've known accept the idea that if you're a good person, even if you believe in another God, you don't get screwed for it. The detailed rules are more for those that accept Judaism, thus taking the duty upon themselves.
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