is it possible to make it so that all the ships have a base of like 0 speed, and give them an ability that increases their speed by a certain amount over a period of time? it would make antimatter a fuel source, and you could redesign antimatter recharge into other methods, like giving all ships a base of 0 antimatter recharge and giving a fuel ship an ability that recharges antimatter on nearby ships

Fuel in sins is represented by health.

So I have two ideas.

First: give your carriors two abilities. One applies to all attached fighters, and slowly damages them over time.

The seconed ability can repair all fighters withen a certain raidius. (better if you could repair all docked fighters, but I don't know if that is possible)

Seoncond idea:

Give the carriors an ability that applies to all attached fighters. This ability has an instant action, on delay, that applies ANOUTHER buff (to itself) that disables engines. with no finish conditions.

I am fairly sure that docking your fighters would start the timer over again. But you can't dock them if your timer goes off, and the engines get dissabled.

So, you will need a refueler ship that applies a buff to all fighters in range, that removes all non-ultimate dissabling buffs.

Those are a bit complicated, but they are the best you can do I think.

  Ahhhh... Wonderful ideas all of them,

Kreeargh    your ... run out of fuel and have to mine for more is excellent!  EvilTesla i'm not quite sure i understand... im a little dense sometimes, and my modding is more instinct than thought, so your logic though wonderful, is more than a bit beyond me. Sorry to be stupid. I understand about buffs... a very little bit, and a little bit about abilities, enough to put in a thimble, and while i agree that what you say sounds very very cool, i ... just cant "see" how to do what you are saying. I think its beyond my abilities.

I thought perhaps i could stumble on a "apply buff"/"remove buff" kind of thing, haha, but that is probably too much to hope for, but of course i can go back and put my head in the files and see what i can find. Problem is, the files are often as confusing as trying to see how multi-player works. I know the vague outlines, its just the details that escape me.

Lord Tareq  i like your idea of having an ability that boosts speed, i think there is one, the sprint that the TEC use, i can take a look, and see if i can test it against a ship that barely moves at all.    Thank you.

adecoy95  i did as you mentioned, took AM all the way to zero, and had a ship build up AM, but even with "no" AM at all, the ships still jump from planet to planet. The abilities dont work, but the engines do. I dont think they have anything in place yet to control ship speed by using a resource. Course i could be completely wrong!!  Haha, but i will have to look and see.

Everyone's suggestions were wonderful!!!  Thank you for taking the time to let me know. It gives me some ideas, and i suppose of course that the Devs could tell me it cant be done yet, but until they do, i will keep trying. There is bound to be something that could have one buff replace another, maybe they both have to be "active"?

I made the stopengines out of the magnetic cloud, just replaced the boolmodifier with "disablelinearengines" and "disableangularengines" and it works, it stops the ships. Problem now of course is getting the ships to move again, haha. 

Thank you all for the wonderful suggestions, EvilTesla, maybe you can explain to me, im rather dense sometimes and dont get it, but explaining sometimes works on me.    Thanks

Take care,

-Teal

That is a Great Idea!!! That is one we will have to try next!!!  And if we can pull it off, then you can have it too!!!

-Teal

Haha, you are right, there is the edit button, i'll do that now.     As to your explanation, it makes sense, thank you, i'm not very familiar with buffs and abilities, but i am learning, i have "seen" the instandactionbuff, but dont really understand, except its seems exactlly as it says, "instant action" so that seems understandable.    I will look at the modifiers, i am just looking at those the last two or three days, so its all starting to look familiar, but i suspect if i look up references on google for sins abilities and buffs i will be able to read more threads, and perhaps glean something that i can understand.    Thank you EvilTesla!!!!     Say hi to Shadow for me!! and yes, i will try to learn ALOT!!!    Haha, but i have a class coming up in the summer, so i may not have anytime for anything except studying and sleep and maybe no game at all until it finishes. I will be registering in the next few weeks, so i dont have much time before then. But it will be fun, and i will be back after summer anyway!!!  Maybe the second expansion beta will be out by then? 

-Teal

I have put together a test version and am posting it to FileFront, it is loading now, and if anyone wants to help me test it and let me know what they think... does it work ok? Is it a pain? Does it make playing interesting? Or new or different? Or a waste of time?  Haha, then i would be happy to hear everyone's thoughts. 

Right now, the Advent are the only ships with the "fuel" (speedboost) ability (I think the vasari use it too, but i didnt change it for them, just left it as it was).

What i did, was lower the "normal" speed to 0.100000, which when the ships come out of the factory is almost not moving at all. Which is what i wanted. Something approaching "completely out of fuel". The speedboost, much to my surprise and enjoyment, is an ability that affects all friendly ships in a given area, so i can put it on one ship and have it affect all the others, instead of having to load it on all the ships individually. I increased that area to 10,000 and set it at a cost of 100 AM and a cooldown of 900 seconds (15 minutes).

the time limit on the ability is also set at 900 seconds, so about the time it runs out, it should be ready to launch again. Just in case.    But i thought it would be interesting to play through and see where i was when the time ran out.    Also, bear in mind that the speedboost ability is in the advent colony frigate, so keep one handy, or your fleet will stop and although they will still have weapons, they will literally be sitting ducks!  

All the other races are normal, and you can of course play each side and see how it works out. Do the advent do ok when played with the "fuel" mod addition, but lousy when they are the ai?  Or both? Or are they ok both ways? Anyway some feedback on what you think is important. As it may be fun for me to run ships around and run out of fuel, but not very cool if im the only one that likes it.  

Right now the file is loading, and i should have a link soon, so will sign off for now, and post back when the link is up, take care and happy modding!!  Oh, i have decided to name this after Lord Tareq, for his suggestion.    And with his permission will include it in my StarFall mod.   So it is now formall "Lord Tareq's Fuel mini-mod" !!!!  

Thank you to Tareq and to everyone for all their cool suggestions and ideas. i knew there just had to be some way (Hoped) to get it to work, i just didnt know how.    I was using the idea of two abilities, one to stop the ships, which i figured out, it was a variation on the magnetic cloud, using the diablelinearengines/disableangularengines boolmodifiers. And was trying to figure out how to get them started again, without much success, haha, and a lot of hair pulling!!!  So im glad someone had a very straightforward idea with ONE ability. It saves a lot of headaches!  

Well... 14 minutes left to load, so i guess i will see everyone then, take care,

-Teal

did you used to play a game called "Conquest: Frontier Wars"

you idea sounds alot like it

I was thinking about this at work today and had some more ideas.  To add to all this how about another ability where one of the frigets can steal {tylithum}/metal  from one of the enemy extractors and use it to refuel?  That would make for canon BSG where they riped off the Cylon mining facility and then destroyed it.

Another idea was have only fuel ships or cap ships be able to supply the fuel to the frigets? If possable have them use a small fuel ship/fighter like the colony ships use to colonise a planet. Or have the cap ship or fuel ship dock with the out of fuel friget/ship.  

If health is the fuel then possably use a repair ships abilitys as a refuler.  The drawback with health/fuel one would have to make it possable to "run out of fuel but not die". I can picture it runing out of fuel then the first shot kills u off. That is NOT wanted .

 My guess all are hard coded just cause i want them .

i pretty much like the antimatter idea,  makes star's even more important neutral grounds to control  or do battle on

I hadn't thought of that, but i think you are right.  Makes things interesting!!  At least i hope so. 

-Teal