When arguing with someone, you have to actually argue something, not just make shit up to disagree with and pretend to refute their point.
Yeah that's true; I'm not sure what you're arguing with me about at this point. Let me try to be a little more clear.
I'm not really arguing about whether or not the current legal loopholes in Swedish law might make the Pirate Bay technically innocent. Whether it's currently legal or not isn't really the point to me (though I do agree it's important that they receive a fair trial, it's not really the thing I'm interested in in this conversation); it's whether or not piracy, in general, SHOULD be legal. I see this trial as part of that process: many people feel that coordinating massive piracy is probably a bad thing and should be illegal, and they're trying to figure out a system that works fairly for the people who are creating the products. Some people, innocent or not, are going to get burned in this process, until we, producers and consumers both, figure out how to deal with this situation.
People come up with certain excuses where they think piracy seems ok: they're poor, they pirate the game and then pay for it later, etc. I'm not sure what the point of these arguments are. Are you saying that because sometimes piracy seems helpful, that it should be legalized? Are you saying that because sometimes some people take advantage of copyright, that all copyright needs to be abolished? Are you saying that because some major labels are "greedy", that no one should be allowed to protect the rights to their music or movies?
Or are you just saying that you know piracy is illegal, and that you think it should be illegal for most people, but not for you and your friends, because you're on the good guy team? I'm not trying to be sarcastic here; I'm honestly wondering what you think "should" be happening with piracy. Don't just say it's inevitable, and that some people will always pirate. I know that. People will always murder; that doesn't mean we should just throw our hands up and allow people to murder all they want.
Do you think there should be laws against piracy, or not? Do you think copyright holders have a right to try to enforce their copyright, or not? Is piracy always ok, or only sometimes ok? And who gets to decide whether or not it's ok?