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That chick is the best looking advent there is...It's all downhill from there

I have to say that Vasari are the best race, especially if you can micro. A nice sized fleet of Subverters with some Desolators with phase missile barrage will decimate any fleet, especially advent. Yes TEC has a nice credit economy, but Vasari is good for resources and blackmarket (also researched cost decreases can mean big powerful fleets). The Death Egg has won games for me before. Phase Stabilizers are an amazing technology to get. I started as TEC because they are simple to grasp and then moved to the more complex Vasari. Altogether the game is pretty balanced though.

Going with Rebellion, I have to say the only factions I am remotely interested in are the TEC Rebels (because the Ragnarov rapes face - and also happens to be named after me ) or the Vasari loyalists, especially on massive maps. With the Vasari loyalists I don't even have to worry about defence - I just life suck every planet I come across and permanently remove it from the game. Another tactic I use with the Vasari Loyalists is to have ten or so Desert/Terran planets turtled up and linked with phase stabilisers for a decent economic base, then life suck everything else. The Titan's phase stabiliser spawn or the Antorak's stabiliser ability means that if one of my planets is under attack my fleet is only one jump away - this breaks down a little on multi star maps but on single star maps I have roflstomped many a hard AI using this strategy.

Adding to this, I find the two cap ships that stand out for me are the Marza and the Space Egg. The only thing the Advent have going for them, in my opinion, is their cap ship combos. The Animosity/Venegance/Shield Regeneration combo can trash whole frigate swarms at a time and multiple high level Halcyons with bomber swarms and their extra squadron abilities can pretty much trash anything you like without even coming into engagement range. That is, until my Titan micro phase jumps down their throat, my Enforcers distortion field their engines and my Subverters put them to sleep, all the while with my Junsurak swarm chowing down happily on their fighters. Alternatively Marza missile barrage and Kol flak burst for equally roflstompy results on an Advent bomber swarm, obviously supported by Dunov shield restore and those cute little round ones to heal up their hull. The only disadvantage to these strategies is if the Advent player also happens to have a Radiance, a Rapture and a Progenitor - but then again, if their fleet is that large odds are my fleet will be equally hefty and their Animosity won't be able to get much of my ships.

Also the Antorak is the sexiest looking ship in the game, hands down.

No, just no. Kortul and Vulkoras are way, way sexier. The ring part of the Antorak is plain wrong (even though it makes sense in regard to phase stabiliser ability) and the spikes on it are just gay. You dont see that shit on Kortul/Vulkoras - therefore they win by default 

even without phase chance you can destroy entire fleets at once. I had about twelve of them and some suberverters, a star base  some sentinels and enforcers, got an AI to jump into my gravity well with about 55 enforcers a bunch of Caps and support fleet and decimated it all while losing just to sentinels.

I was mainly pointing out that with no bypass chance there's no real synergy between Desolators and Subverters.

I agree wholeheartedly that  Desolators can be a beast- it was your choice of supporting frigate I thought may have been a bit misinformed.

If we are relying just on the Subverters ability to make phase missiles phase better there is only one connection-The desolator's main weapon is the phase missile  I was also talking about their ability to disable craft. When the enemy doesn't have any weapons, abilities, or engines it's pretty easy to put a beating on them. (Plus tons of the things leaping across the screen are cool to watch)

Derp wank. Ponies are best race.

-Lord Brony 

Vasari

The somewhat weaker early game isnt much of a trouble thanks to early Orky.

Once in lategame and on a sufficient high tech level.... Vasari can steamroll about anything.

Imho Vasari need a nerf in the next patch.

tec just look bad unless your spamming kols but if you did that then thats just crazy-or is it?

Kol-Haters gonna hate. 

-Huzzah!