^ dont play online because people like to spam. If you cant come at me with a thought driven tactic or strategy. Why would I want to play against you?

Spam isnt a real tactic or strategy.

The attitude comes from the arrogance of people who think spamming is the shit. Anyone willing to treat Spamming like its the kill all win all is really lacking when it comes to taking advantage of the abilities of the race itself.

er... lets see if that works out 20 min into the game when 30+ lums along with a mothership and 2 halcyons along w/ lord knows how many seekers show up on your doorstep. And they aren't there to sing carols either.

I started with TEC and then switched to Advent. I never rly tried Vasari cause their voices sound like hell, and I don't wanna experience HELL when playing a game

I like the advent ships, the way they look. Their BEAM weapons are imba and if you combine illus, crusader and some caps into a fleet you'll BEAM everything away ^^

Although Advent is struggling in the beginning, they can get pretty strong at the end. And their starbase is cool with all those 10 billion fighters ^^

(sry If I repeat stuff already said, I just read the first 3 pages^^)

and advent get nice culture bonus

So yea I love the advent... for the unity

So far Vasari, but the only other race I've played so far is TEC. Once I finish up the match I'm on now I'll give Advent a good chance. But Vasari has a moving starbase. IT MOVES. YOU CAN FULLY UPGRADE IT'S OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE SYSTEMS AND IT MOVES.

Funny thing, my second match ever and I kept sending ravastra skirmishers and kanrak assailants into battle where they were getting hammered by enemy carrier caps and a LOAD of strikecraft and I sat there wondering "Why am I not winning?"

But I do have to disagree with you and say spamming is a tactic and strategy, it's just not a very advanced and in many cases effective.

Exile has a point and I have to agree. But aside from that, there is no reason to spam. Outside of that, which technically its not a strategy its a clamer to survive. There is no thought in it. A strategy requires thought. Processing your abilities, chances and your enemies likely movements and reactions and possible counters as well as your reactions and counters. Spamming is just shoving out the most of one or two things and throwing them against something in an effort snuff out the enemy before your ability to spam become void. Its pathetic and the lazy mans attempt to win a complex game through overly simple buying.

The only DECENT chart of any kind I'm aware of is on the SoaSE Wiki (Google it), but it's HORRIBLY outdated, so idk.

Xer0 \^/

Chuck Norris is the perfect Race. Debate is now over.

Exile, basically it goes:

              LRF > LF > Carriers (fighters) > LRF again.    Thats the basic triangle. 

Its pretty obvious that LRFs (Long Range Frigates:  Javelis LRMs, Illums, Assailants) are good against LFs (Light Frigates: Cobalts, Disciples, Skirmishers), etc..  The following is a more complex expansion:

                                                                LRF
                                 Flak     > (fighters) > Scouts
Scouts > LRF > LF > Carriers          | 
                               Support          v   
                                              (bombers) > HC's
                                                                 Structures (& SBs)
                                                                 Cap Ships

LFs are good against Flak, Carriers and all of the higher tech Support (repair/disable) ships.  Carrier fighters are good against bombers, as well as LRF and Scouts.  Carrier bombers excel at HC (Heavy Cruisers), planet Structures and Capital ships.

Here are the old links: Colored Damage Chart
                                 Zyrxil's Damage Types

Sorta, but they don't recieve a damage bonus, (against them) like bombers do.  LRF are fairly good against Cap ships because of their long range and relatively high base damage.

Fighters, I believe.  And/or scouts! - to some degree.  I believe SB killers have light armor. 

After your intitial question, I created a new post.  It got some good replies, with additional insights that I believe you will find of interest.

I could probably add: Scouts < LF (& Flak).  As Darvin mentions, LF, & Flak to a lesser degree, both do a pretty job of countering scouts.  But what doesn't counter scouts, besides LRF?  Bombers?? And...
I could probably add: HCs, SBs & Cap Ship > ALL.  Those three deal high damage to all types.

I have no idea but i would just like to say that I love the TEC and it kicks butt, even if its a little skimpy on the offensive side of things.

How exactly are they skimpy on the offensive side? Last I checked, the TEC do have the worst offense, but they still can spam.

You guys are off topic.... Vasari is the best.