Only a fool believes in facts, and this is a discussion forum.  If you do not search for a dialogue then you should not start a discussion.

Every DG is OP!  Erebus is soft like butter. 

Erebus on the other hand just has so many strong skills. He can:

Steal health (it's the most damaging move in the game and it can't be dodged.)
Slow you and lower your armour
Stun you
increase skill recharge time
avoid hammer slam with 3/4 skills
has his own teleport which is longest in the game
can remove debuffs on himself
has the easiest minions to get (he even starts with the ability to spawn two of them.)
removes the health / mana bonus for killing him
given enough mana regen can stay in mist form indefinably (preventing any gank attempt)
passive speed boost.

and the kicker is he can do everything above with one build.

Lol he was worse in beta when he did more than 150steal.  You don't know what you're talking about :/  Bite isn't ranged.

Erebus is just slightly too good.  All the generals are bit too good.

You little bitch. Get your own arguements and don't steal mine.

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Erebus is little strong but far from OP. (the extra 100 damage added onto bite's 900 max rank was taking into account extra damage from the armour debuff.) Yes he can do too much which I don't think he should be able to, but OP? You've never played WoW have you? (coming from someone who's played a class that was OP and UP, erebus is strong not OP)

I've played against ridiculously strong torch bearer more often than I've played against ridiculously strong erebus. Ridiculously strong erebus doesn't come about until late game when he's earned at least 20,000 gold (enough to get the 6000g boots, 6000g gloves, and a mageslayer 8000g). I've seen torchbearers who can 2 shot you with their fire ball and ground pound thing, move faster than erebus, and have 8000hp to boot.

Everyone who is claiming him to be overpowered has to look at his other stats. Torch bearer innately does alot more damage than erebus, on top of which he has ranged crowd control and tons of AoE damage. Erebus on the other hand does alot less damage by default so he has to focus on getting +dmg and +attack speed gear, while worrying about his +speed (necessary for escaping and staying on top of people with your +attack speed). Torch bearer already does alot of innate damage and doesn't really have to worry so much about auto attack because the bulk of his damage comes from his insanely powereful cooldowns. Thus torch bearer can afford to spend a bunch of money and slots on +hp, effectively making him one badass mothafucka. Stacking as much health gear on erebus as I could, the most I've ever seen his health was just at about 6000. I've seen torch bearers with 8000 health. 6000+ regen/bite ~= 8000 health raw.

I guess my point is this. When you list his skills in a line, yes it certainly seems as though he is more powereful than the other demigods. But when you take into account his low default attack power and low default health, it changes the equation a good deal. Bite is the ONLY thing that really makes him good. Take that away or nerf it and you've effectively made him useless. No one wants a demigod that can ONLY run away.

and the thread title is called "If one Demigod were OP..."  Amazing the difference of the thread if the title was "which demigod is OP?"

Second, doesn't matter bout italics I could be talking out of my ass and you wouldn't know. Come up with your own arguements or don't try to argue at all. (They weren't your arguements as you had to go to another forum, read my post then copy /paste it into this thread.)

Finally I know the quote system is hard to figure it out, but come on now it's not any harder to put [quote][quote] around it then it is to do italics.

Yep that thread title makes no difference at all.

Someone stole your argument on the internet. Get a spine, Quentin.

"What are you... 13? Did you even read anyone else's post? Or are other people's opinions just not important to you. If this is the case why even start a thread? Why not just sit in your parents basement proclaiming yourself the smartest person alive and save us the trouble of having to read your idiotic threads."

We'll see.

Everyone does, however what I'm saying is erebus' shortcomings compliment his skills. He NEEDS bite and health regen to compensate for the fact that he has very low health. Other demigods, have more health than he has, and so they don't need to invest as much money/slots into health as he does, and therefore they can afford to place their money/slots elsewhere. Everything has a balance or a counter.

Some demigods are more item dependant than others, erebus deffiantely is because he's a general and people attempt to play him as an assasin (the crazy good erebus). Assassins can simply level up their attack speed, damage, and health/health regen at the bottom of their tree. Erebus' bottom tree like every other general, is a minion tree. Therefore to play erebus like an assassin requires much more itemization than other demigods.

The excess money he has to spend on gear, you can spend on your citadel, and in fact that's the best counter I've found against cheesie erebus. Go for giants. Erebus' only "AoE" is his bat swarm which is really mana intensive and has a huge cooldown. Erebus can't stop an army of giants from getting to the citadel.

So like I said earlier, any demigod looks amazing if you only look at their strengths. You need to look at their weaknesses as well. Erebus has some awesome strenghts, but he also has a fair number of weaknesses he needs to overcome to make him viable. The crazy erebus' you guys are playing against are people who know erebus' weaknesses in and out, and have their item build order all worked out.

arf and another Op thread... I find this game pretty well balanced, but there is so much variables during a games... players skills, items, team skill, team demigods, map (how many time I saved the life of my DG with an healing potions on the ground) and you mirrors all this variables with the ennemy team.

During all my online games I've thought at least one time that all demigods are OP. Look at sedna/queen. Well played they are harder to kill than erebus. In fact, at a given level all demigod aren't balanced. Erebus isn't powerfull at all at begining. mist and stun use too much mana and you get the bat attack really later in the game. Compared to sedna/queen/reg he can die very fast. But near the end of a match finaly it's a killer. Now, if you re team is loosing, you will never get the uber skills/items.

Have just a final word : TEAMPLAY! I mean this game isn't 1vs1. In all match I loose with the feeling to be a noob vs OP demigod, it's because the ennemy team play better than your. How many match I see guys doing some suicide attacks at beginning... each time you die you give more gold/exp to others and they finish by be uber... Guys, find some/make some friends for play with you and help each other, you will see how it's easier to win!

because he lost a Demigod is overpowered. sissy get a life and play a game more suited to you, like candy land or sorry...

If there was going to be one DG I'd say is Overpowered, I would agree it is Erebus.  His abilities are all just too good.

Mist (Can be countered with a 25g consumable or, when favor points actually work, a cheap favor point item, but it does way too much damage and with the right build is devastating).

Bite I think we all agree is a little overpowered based on the discussion above.

Bat Swarm, especially on Crusible, where he can just teleport between gaps (please fix this) is a very powerful ability, but it fits with his "Strike and Run" description.  With a slight nerf to bite and mist, this ability is fine.

So he can swarm in, mist, damage you quite a bit, auto attack, bite for health, and bat swarm out if necessary.  The point in that chain that should not exist is the auto-attacking, and the only way to stop his auto attack is to make him feel more vunerable (nerfing bite).

A very close second to erebus is Sedna for most op ; )