Erebus is OP - end of story » Forum Post by GnomeChomp

Quoting Sorceresss,

Quoting Takkik, reply 10 I think that lot of people really need to forget the score/kills and focus more about fight as a team for gain the victory. Demigod isn't a deathmatch game!

I agree 100%. I've lost a few matches because some of my team8s were obsessed by FPS-style streetfigting against enemy DGs.

I was even insulted once, on the team chat, by an ally who taunted me because I had not killed one single DG in the very first minutes of the game. (It was not a slaughter match, and I was an Ice TB.) His "strategy" for killing enemy DGs was taking too many tactical risks : for each 1 kill he got, as a Regulus, he was himself killed 3 times!)

Self-centered streetfigting tactics do not represent the long-range strategy required to achieve victory objectives as a team.

The crucial problem, at the moment, unless you're playing with friends, is having the random luck of winding up in a competent team. It's almost impossible to detect mature, cooperative team8s in the game-setup lobby.

i have to agree with the avril fan

but it is partly based on 1v1 in small battle like 2v2 and 3v3 then there are sometimes when it is better to 1v1 the dude and kill him/wound himbadly

but that is only like 5%

the rest of the time u got to be holding off creeps and wounding enermies and capping flags

it isn't a hard game to play but it is a hard game to play well together

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Bite would have to be something like 225/225. It should not go to half because part of the loss of getting a heal is losing the burst of an ability that could have been frontload damage. Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).

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ecause part of the loss of getting a heal is losing the burst of an ability that could have been frontload damage. Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).

so basically ur bitching that the attack heals him

dude sedna's pounce stuns and does 1k here healing heals 1500 all for about 1200mana so what u moaning about erbus isn't op it is just he is a good dg

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Quoting si1foo,

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ecause part of the loss of getting a heal is losing the burst of an ability that could have been frontload damage. Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).
so basically ur bitching that the attack heals him

dude sedna's pounce stuns and does 1k here healing heals 1500 all for about 1200mana so what u moaning about erbus isn't op it is just he is a good dg

Can you even read? I'm not the OP. I'm saying that using simple math the trade off might be considered too great for the mana cost but the OP suggested a nerf that I thought would be too much. I don't know why you even brought up Sedna.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/demigods/

She's not that great. She's annoying but the reason she gets those powerful heals at a good cost is because she licks balls at so many other things.

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All Erebus needs is a small mana tweak to get him equal to other Demigod's when he can do 10 level 1 bites to Sedna's 8 level 1 heals each is a 600hp =or- but their is the mana difference equal out the mana that is all that needs to happen

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This (referring to the original post) is almost as bad as the PvP message boards on some MMOs were at release.

"Wahhhhh i got ganked by class X! Class X is overpowered!!!".

Get over it.

It's also pretty obvious that, while one can certainly discuss the relative balance of "Bite" in such detail... this one skill will hardly hardly matter on the scale suggested by the OP. I.e. "Erebus is always the one that kills me!" lol. ...

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Quoting Weirdingway,

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Quoting si1foo, reply 3
ecause part of the loss of getting a heal is losing the burst of an ability that could have been frontload damage. Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).
so basically ur bitching that the attack heals him

dude sedna's pounce stuns and does 1k here healing heals 1500 all for about 1200mana so what u moaning about erbus isn't op it is just he is a good dg

Can you even read? I'm not the OP. I'm saying that using simple math the trade off might be considered too great for the mana cost but the OP suggested a nerf that I thought would be too much. I don't know why you even brought up Sedna.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/demigods/

She's not that great. She's annoying but the reason she gets those powerful heals at a good cost is because she licks balls at so many other things.

i brought up sedna for a comparison seeing as all the dark demis tend to have a counter in the light side

erebus is not op a slight difference in manawont change how the game plays wont change the tactics in using erebus

op is when a player has a major advantage over other characters like if sedna could heal 100% and had a 3 sec cool down and 0 cast she would be op

if erebuses bite did over 1k dmg it would be op but all the major bits have already gone over and fixed so i see no point in this thread

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I don't know why you even brought up Sedna.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/demigods/

She's not that great. She's annoying but the reason she gets those powerful heals at a good cost is because she licks balls at so many other things.

And me I don't know why you refer to the demigod classement. Sedna is powerfull because of healing, she's a medic, not really a dg killer. A good sedna player don't try to get kills but support others demigods. A dg supported by sedna can beat erebus easly, the bite dont match the healing spell. If you play sedna for kills you are wrong. Like frost TB, in a good team she's make the difference.

Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).

The range of the fireball is a great advantage. You can kill without taking risk. With the bite/melee you need to get close of the target, that can put you in dangerous situations. And when you play well you avoid dangerous situation/stupid death.

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Quoting Takkik,

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I don't know why you even brought up Sedna.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/demigods/

She's not that great. She's annoying but the reason she gets those powerful heals at a good cost is because she licks balls at so many other things.

And me I don't know why you refer to the demigod classement. Sedna is powerfull because of healing, she's a medic, not really a dg killer. A good sedna player don't try to get kills but support others demigods. A dg supported by sedna can beat erebus easly, the bite dont match the healing spell. If you play sedna for kills you are wrong. Like frost TB, in a good team she's make the difference.

Fireball's gain for the damage/mana loss is range. Bite's gain for the damage/mana loss in healing but right now the damage/mana loss benefit of healing is more advantageous than range (at least IMO).

The range of the fireball is a great advantage. You can kill without taking risk. With the bite/melee you need to get close of the target, that can put you in dangerous situations. And when you play well you avoid dangerous situation/stupid death.

noob i use senda not for being a little support standing behind them healing that is so narrow mindedi use sedna to do dmg with pounce and draw there attention then my friend bashes them and i heal my self and pounce again usually for the finishing blow

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noob i use senda not for being a little support standing behind them healing that is so narrow mindedi use sedna to do dmg with pounce and draw there attention then my friend bashes them and i heal my self and pounce again usually for the finishing blow

Yeah, never played her so i'm a big noob with this dg. I'm so sorry to have reduced her to some medic field dg, please forgive me. The point is that Erebus isn't OP compared to others DG. Most people don't know how use their favorite dg efficienly (as me if I took sedna or another unusual dg for me).

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ur not very good at being sarcastic

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Quoting si1foo,

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ur not very good at being sarcastic

Because I wasn't. I don't have tested all dg (Rook, TB and Erebus so far) so I don't know how they play all, just have some supositions from what I 've seen in game. And since I didn't meet many good teams, I wasn't opposed to good sedna players. When I'm wrong I say it; no need to be 'sarcastic'.

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Quoting Takkik,

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Quoting si1foo, reply 11ur not very good at being sarcastic

Because I wasn't. I don't have tested all dg (Rook, TB and Erebus so far) so I don't know how they play all, just have some supositions from what I 've seen in game. And since I didn't meet many good teams, I wasn't opposed to good sedna players. When I'm wrong I say it; no need to be 'sarcastic'.

hmm if ur playing me ur a asshole

but i suck with erebus but i know he anit op because if he was i op he would own reg is proberly the most op out off all the dudes but only at high lvls and with a shitload of money

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bite is the main issue with Erebus. scale the life steal and its good.

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hmm if ur playing me ur a asshole

Why are you always using so 'kind' words? Each time I read one of your post your always treating some people of noobs, assholes or idiots... You should improve your social talk.

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Quoting Takkik,

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hmm if ur playing me ur a asshole
Why are you always using so 'kind' words? Each time I read one of your post your always treating some people of noobs, assholes or idiots... You should improve your social talk.

because most people are or they acted like iddiots or assholes to get attention

i wouldn't say bite is a issue what is its lvl 10 dmg and health recov

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"This (referring to the original post) is almost as bad as the PvP message boards on some MMOs were at release.

"Wahhhhh i got ganked by class X! Class X is overpowered!!!"."

Actually dipshit I only play with Erebus because it doesn't make sense to pick a weaker Demigod, and I am bored with pwning with him all the time.

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Actually dipshit I only play with Erebus because it doesn't make sense to pick a weaker Demigod, and I am bored with pwning with him all the time.

Oh shit. Big man here. Plays a few pubs, and he's just too good for us. He's so modest too! Instead of beating us some more, he wants his demigod to be nerfed

I think we can all agree, kid701 is the best there ever was. Hands down.

God, you're just terrible. Stop ruining legitimate discussion with your idiocy.

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Quoting Extacide,

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Actually dipshit I only play with Erebus because it doesn't make sense to pick a weaker Demigod, and I am bored with pwning with him all the time.

Oh shit. Big man here. Plays a few pubs, and he's just too good for us. He's so modest too! Instead of beating us some more, he wants his demigod to be nerfed

I think we can all agree, kid701 is the best there ever was. Hands down.

God, you're just terrible. Stop ruining legitimate discussion with your idiocy.

the most powerful for earily games is sedna

the most powerful for mid to late games is regulus

+1

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"Oh shit. Big man here. Plays a few pubs, and he's just too good for us. He's so modest too! Instead of beating us some more, he wants his demigod to be nerfed

I think we can all agree, kid701 is the best there ever was. Hands down.

God, you're just terrible. Stop ruining legitimate discussion with your idiocy."

Yeah that was a good comeback. Kid701, fucking hilarious.

I started this "legitimate" discussion, I didn't post any evidence and yet the thread still reached 145 posts. It doesn't take a lot of brainpower to realise that a lot of people think Erebus is OP, otherwise this thread wouldn't have received so much attention.

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alot off people may think something but it doesn't mean it is true alot off people watch youtube vids doesn't mean they love to be on youtube

but erebus isn't op op is when u die in like 3 hits

erebus isn't op people use op too much in this game i have killed so many erebuses io have lost count there is no probs with his skills

if u can't fight him well it is ur prob dont bitch about in on the forum learn a way to counter it

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I started this "legitimate" discussion, I didn't post any evidence and yet the thread still reached 145 posts. It doesn't take a lot of brainpower to realise that a lot of people think Erebus is OP, otherwise this thread wouldn't have received so much attention.

This thread is so huge because people like me love to make fun of retarded children like you.

Keep crying kid, losing wont get those mean erebus' nerfed.

It's okay! Really! It'll be okay! I think you'll live son. You may have a few scratches and bruises, but you are healthy and that is all that matters!

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shit i got +1 karma who from

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shit i got +1 karma thanks extra for the karma point

i know what im talking about because im expirenced in games and i try different things but i still havn't figured out a counter for a high dps reg with crit items that is the only thing i dont know how to counter

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i know what im talking about because im expirenced in games

I doubt your experience really counts for anything yet. Past pantheon and custom games with random people, the beta, and even the past two ESL tournaments, no one's experience really counts for anything. No major clans/teams have emerged yet to really abuse any imbalance that there might be. Demigod is a teamgame, not a one man pub hero fest. Three people playing there characters separately with an obligation to help one another, functions nothing like a team that moves as a team with perfect coordination.

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