I just hope this mini dump issues get's solved soon. It's not your mod... in fact the game has down it with several other mods I have tried.. very dissappointing . And it has nothing to do with the beast I play on either.

  Hey Major have you or any of your buddies ever played " Birth of Federation" ? It's oldie but a fantastic goodie... you might want to treat yourself to a copy for Christmas.. you can usually only find it on Ebay and it commands a pretty stiff price of $60-$100 but well worth it.. The game is best trek game I have ever played...  period... It roles lots on interesting show highlights in it.. It's funny seeing how the computer AI for each race responds.. along with Diplomatic views lol.... Like the way the Federation views the Binars vs say the Klingons lol or even the Ferengi..  That's also the only game I know of where you can actually play as the Ferengi...

Oh the Borg happen in that game too lol... and OMG they kick your ass but yeah.. if you played it you know all this.. if not get yourself a copy... hell if I manage to get my copies remilled and able to be read without corruption I might be able to send you off one the game was made in 1999 so I think 10 years so I think it's legal to copy now... if not nevermind lol...

The game is abandonware and is fully available for free download. It's also great.

0.4e wont be out till next year.... as in somewhere in January if nothing goes wrong. Like i said before we got a ton of work to do, and real life is priority right now. We tried to get it done before christmas, but i seriously doubt it will happen.

However i am working on an update to the Original Sins version of the mod to tide you guys over until we can get 0.4e out the door. Give me about a week to get that done. I already have the feds done in it.

SoA 2_OS The "OS" stands for Original Sins will be an updated version of 0.03c with some 0.4e components in it. However theres some things it will not have. Like Dynamic ship movement, because original sins doesnt support fighter movement for ships, and i really dont want to waste time with "workarounds" that cause errors, and crashes. Everything i did with 0.4e i am doing to SoA 2_OS except for the research trees. Again i do not want to waste too much time on this. It will use fully functional vanilla sins research trees tied into ship unlocks, and weapon upgrades. It will basically play just like vanilla sins. Except with trek ships. Which is all 0.03c was anyway. Once 0.4e is released i will have no issue with anyone who wants to "downgrade" it, because we just dont have the time or manpower to do multi-versions.

Once SoA 2_OS is ready ill start the new topic.

There is a mine sweeper its the miranda class ship.

Wouldn't it be possible to just add the Voyager as the Colony Cap ship, and keep the Ambassador (but not as a cap ship). If you're feeling like it, you could also add the Prometheus, or Luna class ships

 You, dear Sir, have no taste in TV. Voyager was kick-ass. You're just unhappy because it places a woman in charge, or because it actually looks like a pretty ship.

You almost make it sound unrealistic, and we all know just how many space-ships with warp engines that we can compare it to

Imho, DS9 was the weakest of all the shows - it was so...un-Star Trekkie. Still, we can't change history..sadly. Lmao

I guessed you wouldn't incldue the Prometheus. It's an awesome looking ship though Have you come up with any suggestions for the remaining Fed ship slots?

Did you accidently deactivate the 'Auto-Engage' function on your fleet?

I think it's a known issue resulting from dynamic movement.  Not sure if it was fixed.  It seems like you're having it happen to you a lot more often than it happened to me though...weird.

I think this is the issue.  I've been away from the mod forums for a few months but I am assuming you are talking about where the ships no longer stay stationary and slug it out.  Instead they move around eachother in a constant motion.  If that is correct then yeah I think that is the issue I am having.  My ships will engage and fight then sometimes they will drag themselves to the outer edge of the gravity well and just continue to attempt to fly straight away from the planet and never come about and face the enemy.  Not sure if that makes sense or not, I wish I could post a video to show exactly what I am trying to describe. 

I tried to fiddle with thing to see if I could have them turn around without directing them to fly back towards the planet and in the engagement tactics menu you have 3 choices (Gravity Well/Local Area/Hold Position) when I selected hold position my ship would turn around and reengaged but wouldn't fly around in the dynamic movement.  I tried to make a cruiser (forget which one) and for a good bit it fought normally when I have a pirate invasion but eventually when the fight took them near the outskirts of the gravity well they would try to fly off into space with their backs turned to the enemy too.

Just thought I'd add that the UI is awesome and very immersive... good job on the mod.

Thx Carbon016, I have been looking for a good copy of this game since I first saw my Platoon Sergeant playing it my first time in Iraq.

Umm. . . When did the year 40k roll around?  Too much Warhammer for you !

You only say that because it took place on a space station and not a starship (though that is understandable), but at least it didn't have the same problems that MajorStress mentioned (though it had some of it's own).  By far I preferred ST:TNG the most out of all.

Oh and J808, Myles has it right.  That is a known issue that nothing can be done about (other than manging your fleets a little closer).

MajorStress, you asked earlier about our voting on importing this title to Diplomacy.  I vote yes (mainly to justify my reasons behind purchasing the expansion), but you don't have to do it right away.  I say finish everything for the mod on entrenchment, THAN convert over to Diplomacy (that way they will have finished with all of their patching).

It's weird, I totally lost interest in Trek because of Voyager... on top of all the reasons Stress mentioned, by this time Trek was becoming way too politically correct... i.e. boring.  Yet one of my absolute favorite Trek episodes of all the series is a Voyager episode: Scorpion.  The one where 7 of 9 showed up for the first time.  That was an outstanding episode... totally edge of your seat, and arguably one of the best since the Doomsday Machine.

But then it went back to the same bland Voyager, fraut with all the writing contradictions.  That's who I blame, the idiot writing staff... what ever happened to the old Trek???  The one that made everyone's jaw drop week after week???  The one where Kirk kissed Uhura and half black/half white dudes tried to annialate each other over which side was white????

Voyager was such a pretty little thing, too bad the writer's castrated her....

I agree with you on some of that - the Borg were a major letdown. I watched TNG first, then Voyager, and am only just starting to watch DS9 (picked the DVD's up cheap). Deep Space Nine, to me, only seems to be "Oh no, the Cardassians have left another trap in the station. We're all going to die. Oh, wait, if I pull this plug, then we'll all live". Not what I'd consider the brilliant storylines of TNG.

I believe that the last episode(s) of Voyager were a bit rushed - Seven of Nine and Chakotay suddenly started dating - all far to fast.

As to the person that said "Planetfall ability?  WTF?  Doesn't that mean it's not a starship anymore?  Mobile nacelles?  Wait, they wouldn't even need to move if the ship didn't land?  What's going on here?" - that's not quite true. Did you ever watch Battlestar Galactica? The ships landed in that. In reality, the Spaceships land - doesn't mean that they can't fly as well, otherwise aeroplanes would have to drive all the way around the world.