THIS IS NOT TRUE.

With Entrenchment some of the features changed dramatically during the beta, after suggestions.  Things that are completely different (such as new races) are of course not going to be in obviously though,

I suppose it depends in part how they do the beta.  Entrenchment wasn't originally going to have a beta, but they realized that it needed one.  In this case they  are planning a beta well in advance so there might be more scope for input.  I suppose it depends what you count as a feature.

eadtaes, your not a dev, your just a forum troll...

really... dont post things that 1. look like a dev would post. 2. quite possibly not true.

Here's how I see it. Even if this were true, which I doubt, we have no real information about what features the beta actually *does* contain. "Total rehaul of the diplomacy system." That sounds all well and good, but it's nothing concrete to work with. Posting feature suggestions and talking them out is really the only thing we can do at the moment, since the beta isn't released, and we have nothing to go on.

I second EadTaes opinion.

In Software Development you do not start thinking of new features once the software reaches an alpha state. That would mean to go back to the drawing board with the whole system to fit these new features into the planned architecture. This is like starting all over again which costs time and money, two things you only waste if it is absolutely necessary (e.g. in case the basic assumptions for the expansion are so wrong that it simply is not going to work).

Thus feature suggestions are a nice for discussion and exchange of opinions but don't expect them to be added to the Diplomacy extension because this just won't happen.

One: Whatever you ET think or believe in, you're not a member of SD nor IC and please don't make posts like you were the goddamn SD CEO. I'm talking about that [NOTICE] crap. You're not posting a notice, it's just your opinion.

Two: That said, some kids on these forums do need to get a life. They're dwelling here, spending days upon days on talking about completely useless stuff. I mean, come on - everyone wants a balanced game. But what goddamn sense does it have to discuss Vasari lore when there is NONE? Or "Science of sins"? What use is this? None, it's just fancy graphix, there's no science there.
And the thousands of ideas for new features that will not help but waste hundreds of working hours on the Dev's part and complicate the game more than it would take.
Get a beer or go for a walk. Seriously.

N3rull STFU your as stupid as it comes i swear. this is a FORUMS where PEOPLE DISCUSS shit. If people want to discuss THE LORE OF SINs This is where it should be. How about you GET A LIFE and stop crying about what other people do with their time.

OR

How about you use your talents as a crybaby and join the U.S. Congress. Atleast there theyd let you whine and waste their time listening to you. Otherwise go beat your dog or something.

Allegiance, I think that while someone did have to say it (and it just happened to be you), there are courteous ways to say it.

N3rull, like I said when you popped in on the 'Science of Sins', THERE ARE PEOPLE who like to discuss such things as that. I myself enjoy such discussions. A good deal of the reason behind that post, IMO, is to clear up the murk behind everything, because people started getting into flame wars with each other over the minor detail of 'is a Gauss gun compatible with a Railgun?' (I was actually in that one, so I know what it is like; and Gauss gun+Railgun doesn't work, as the 2 weapons work on 2 DIFFERENT applications of the same force). Additionally, the 'lack' of lore given to us about the Sins universe leaves a wide range of things that people can make up. As a result, it is up to us, the fans, to create the universe of Sins, within the parameters (and very wide/loose ones at that) given us by IC/SD.

Anyways, I do agree that EadTaes probably shouldn't have done the [NOTICE] part, as if he was a dev. I do think that the claim is valid though; right now they are probably working on getting Diplo into a workable alpha/beta state. As a result of that, features that we suggest probably won't make it into the game. I say probably, because I am in no way shape or form part of the Dev team, and am not privy to what the Devs do. I think it is certainly possible that some of the suggestions may get integrated, and that it is also possible that they have already been thought of, and discarded or integrated.

Wow, this degenerated into a flame war faster than expected

At this point, it's clear we aren't getting a dev post, and nothing but a dev post is going to clarify the topic at hand.  I'd say it's time for a moderator to lock this.

  nice post Whiskey.

-T

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos

chill out

This fussing and fighting was dead for two weeks.

necro

He wasn't annoyed at the content of the post, he was annoyed that you resurrected the thread