Mod freezes when Changes Applied

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I was tooling around with the tutorial on modding for entrenchment, and I did exactly the easy one about weak vasari.  The mod shows up in the game but as soon as I pressed apply changes the game locks up and I have to reboot. To be fair I also tried changing a couple of tech battleship numbers a bit, just to see if i could make that gauss gun a bit stronger, but i don't think thats my problem.  I have been reading the forums for 2 days now and  I saw another post with the exact same problem in the (fixed) entrenchment mod thread, but of course it was the last post 3 months ago with no answer.  So if someone could help me I'd appreciate it. Never posted on a forum before, so I apologize for all the things I did wrong that I see many other new people get yelled at for in advance.

Cheers

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

First off, let me welcome you too the forums!

Secondly, what your experiencing is actully PROBABLY normal.

This happens RIGHT when you enable the mod?

IF so, that it is probably just the computer going through the mod, checking the mod and enabling it.  I sugest you just let the computer sit for a few minutes.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

Is the version of the mod files correct? (I mean, do you use 1.03 ref data as a base with the 1.03 Entrenchment?)

If you run the developer exe, it should tell you what the exact problems are.

But no, Sins does not make lockups when enabling "broken" mods, or anyway else. If there's a problem, you get a minidump.

Also, large mods (like Soa, DS, etc) can take a while to load, you can't press any buttons until then. Although even Distant Stars (720mb) shouldn't take more than a couple of seconds. Try to run in windowed mode to see if the PC still responds.

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting cszolee, reply 2
Is the version of the mod files correct? (I mean, do you use 1.03 ref data as a base with the 1.03 Entrenchment?)

If you run the developer exe, it should tell you what the exact problems are.

But no, Sins does not make lockups when enabling "broken" mods, or anyway else. If there's a problem, you get a minidump.

Also, large mods (like Soa, DS, etc) can take a while to load, you can't press any buttons until then. Although even Distant Stars (720mb) shouldn't take more than a couple of seconds. Try to run in windowed mode to see if the PC still responds.
End of cszolee's quote

 

your assuming he is using a fast machine as well. the slower/older the comp the longer it will take to load large mods, generaly speaking. i know it can take around 30 seconds to a min to load some of the large mods i use.

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

This is just a thought, but especially with Entrenchment, there is the need to update or change any entity files added to the gameInfo folder. say i take a scout and make a scout2. In scout2 i change some of the settings. Weapons or hull or shields.

If i simply save and exit and start Sins and load the mod, the mod will cause the game to mini-dump. Many times i dont know this until i get out and see the error on the screen.

But the reason is i didnt update the entity.manifest file for the file i added.

But if i go into the manifest (open with notepad) and go down to frigatescout and copy, press enter for a new line

click paste and change the now second line which has scout to scout2 then go to the top, change the number of entities to 1 more than what it currently is, then i save and exit, start Sins and load the mod. Usually, if i haven't missed something else, im now ok and the mod will play.

Just a thought, this might not be the case at all if you havent' added files. :)

-Teal

 

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

 

I'm the same problem, I go to the mod section under options and click enable mod and then when I click for the changes to be a applied the game freezes up. My display and system info is down below. As you can see myy computer is more than capable of handing the game. Cold someone please explain why the the game suddenly freezes when I try to appy a mod. I should also not that the game just freezes it doesn't crush the screen just freezes like that.

OS Name    Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium
Version    6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002
Other OS Description     Not Available
OS Manufacturer    Microsoft Corporation
System Name    HPDT
System Manufacturer    HP-Pavilion
System Model    GN702AA-ABA a6244n
System Type    X86-based PC
Processor    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4500  @ 2.20GHz, 2200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date    Phoenix Technologies, LTD 5.21, 7/27/2007
SMBIOS Version    2.4

Name    ATI Radeon HD 4650
PNP Device ID    PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9498&SUBSYS_24511682&REV_00\4&C1756B2&0&0008
Adapter Type    ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9498), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible
Adapter Description    ATI Radeon HD 4650
Adapter RAM    1.00 GB (1,073,741,824 bytes)
Installed Drivers    atiumdag.dll,atidxx32.dll,atidxx64,atiumdva.cap,atiumd64,atiumd6a,atitmm64
Driver Version    8.01.01.909
INF File    oem39.inf (ati2mtag_R7X section)
Color Planes    Not Available
Color Table Entries    4294967296
Resolution    1440 x 900 x 74 hertz
Bits/Pixel    32

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

Try to alt+tab out and go back in. See if it displays an error.

Generally, if it freezes completely and waiting any length of time does not work, there's an error loading the mod.

 

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Reply #7 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Kitkun, reply 6
Try to alt+tab out and go back in. See if it displays an error.

Generally, if it freezes completely and waiting any length of time does not work, there's an error loading the mod.

 

End of Kitkun's quote

 

I tried that but it didn't work. I think my be a problem with the referance data in forge tools 3. If that data is for 1.03 but rather a prevision than can any point in the direction of where I can get the data for 1.03

Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top

Use this to convert the files from the GameInfo in the install directory. Note that Entrenchment has a different GameInfo folder found in the GameInfo folder.

 

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