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WilliamStanley
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Reply #51 September 18, 2009 7:07:43 PM
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Forwarded this info to Cari, good find.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #52 September 18, 2009 7:09:32 PM
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Quoting mstroh,
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OK, found a new hiccup with this error.

 

I deleted the contents of the screens folder, as suggested here: https://forums.elementalgame.com/364302, and found out the following:

1) If I tell impulse to redownload the contents, there is no change (the game still crashes after ~5 seconds on the splash screen).

However, if I leave the folder empty, and run Elemental from a desktop shortcut, I can successfully get to the intro video.  Of course, another problem comes up in that the program sits forever on a black screen after playing the video, but its somewhat of an improvement.

 

Edit:

And I think the offender may be found.  If familytreesubwnd.dxpack is deleted from the screens folder (and all the other files are left in), the program seems to work.  I've managed to get to the main menu, can fiddle with the options, and at least get the screens to set up a game.

You, good sir, are my hero. Removing familytreesubwnd.dxpack from C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Elemental\screens and C:\ProgramData\Stardock\Elemental - War of Magic\Screens made me get past the title screen.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #53 September 18, 2009 7:51:16 PM
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 "Removing familytreesubwnd.dxpack from C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Elemental\screens and C:\ProgramData\Stardock\Elemental - War of Magic\Screens made me get past the title screen."

 

The game works like a charm after I tried this.  Before I did it, the game always crashed at the intro screen.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #54 September 18, 2009 8:44:55 PM
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Kryo, FYI I can confirm that deleting familytreesubwnd.dxpack does not fix the issue for at least one of us (just reported as bug 70304).

 

It's my alternate (ancient) laptop so I can still play fine on my primary, just fyi.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #55 September 18, 2009 8:52:36 PM
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 "Removing familytreesubwnd.dxpack from C:\Program Files\Stardock Games\Elemental\screens and C:\ProgramData\Stardock\Elemental - War of Magic\Screens made me get past the title screen."

Now stuck on black screen after intro screen finishes...

error report etc... here https://forums.elementalgame.com/364036/#2377531

 

 

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #56 September 18, 2009 8:58:26 PM
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I have similar problem.

Fixed by removing the familytreesubwnd.dxpack file as suggested in this thread.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #57 September 18, 2009 9:17:34 PM
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Eureka!  Deleting all screens from both places then running Verify install from impluse software, then updating elemental via impulse, then deleting only familytreesubwnd.dxpack at both locations got me into the game!

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #58 September 18, 2009 9:41:01 PM
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Had a similar problem. Deleted the family... file from both locations and it would get past splash intro. But once in game could not access any research trees, as has been noted by posters above.

Found that after you boot up if you alt-tab out (while at the intial main menu) and add the family... file back to the Program File/...Elemental/screens folder that these trees will be able to be accessed while in game.

Hope this helps.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #59 September 19, 2009 4:53:59 AM
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Deleting that file works great for me. Thanks for finding it.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #60 September 19, 2009 5:12:49 AM
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Sadly, it doesn't work in my case: it seems that the TitleWnd.dxpack file causes the crash for me

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #61 September 19, 2009 5:30:55 AM
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If I remove all files in the Movies directory and keep all files in the screens directory, I am able to see the menu but it crashes whenever I click on anything

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #62 September 19, 2009 8:35:28 AM
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Deleting those two files also worked for me, meaning I was unable to get past title screen and into a game, now I can.  However, once in the game, not sure things are right.  Seem to be missing functionality that others have described (but I have not experienced obviously).

 

Clearly, however, this seems to be a great step forward in identifying issue.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #63 September 19, 2009 11:27:47 AM
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Family Tree seems to cause my initial ctd, but TitleWnd seems to also be doing it.  of coarse, when I remove titlewnd as well all I get is a black screen and my quill pen mouse pointer...

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Reply #64 September 19, 2009 12:17:32 PM
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Deleting the FamilyTree files is definitely only a partial fix. I'm getting pretty inconsitent functionality across sessions and cannot access any menus in the game, so I can't try a re-start and load to see if it gets me back or finally into a more functional state.

The oddest variations are in whether or not I can even attack a wandering monster (sometimes I just end up sharing a square), whether I can build a town, and whether I can train troops in a town. (I also had one very odd moment where my sovereign moved to the edge of someone else's influence and got locked in place. Could muck with towns a bit, but no amount of futzing and ending turns got that sovereign moving again.)

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #65 September 19, 2009 12:43:35 PM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
reply 64
Deleting the FamilyTree files is definitely only a partial fix. I'm getting pretty inconsitent functionality across sessions and cannot access any menus in the game, so I can't try a re-start and load to see if it gets me back or finally into a more functional state.

The oddest variations are in whether or not I can even attack a wandering monster (sometimes I just end up sharing a square), whether I can build a town, and whether I can train troops in a town. (I also had one very odd moment where my sovereign moved to the edge of someone else's influence and got locked in place. Could muck with towns a bit, but no amount of futzing and ending turns got that sovereign moving again.)

This is the same for me. I can also only exit the game by Crtl-Alt-Delete.

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Reply #66 September 19, 2009 1:38:18 PM
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Well, just a bit ago, ESC started working for me after being hit many, many times in many different sessions and doing nothing. Hopefully it will stay working, because at the moment I can save and load as well as exit normally, which is nice. If only the Kingdom menu would start working...

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Reply #67 September 19, 2009 2:19:28 PM
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Ditto. I can only build a town once, and have not been able to train troops or attack yet.

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WilliamStanley
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Reply #68 September 19, 2009 4:52:49 PM
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If you restore the files when you get to the menu it restores access to the screens and the few features available.

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Reply #69 September 19, 2009 7:00:40 PM
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I have had the exact same issues.  The getting stuck at the edge of someones influence was particularly weird.

Quoting GW Swicord,
reply 64
Deleting the FamilyTree files is definitely only a partial fix. I'm getting pretty inconsitent functionality across sessions and cannot access any menus in the game, so I can't try a re-start and load to see if it gets me back or finally into a more functional state.

The oddest variations are in whether or not I can even attack a wandering monster (sometimes I just end up sharing a square), whether I can build a town, and whether I can train troops in a town. (I also had one very odd moment where my sovereign moved to the edge of someone else's influence and got locked in place. Could muck with towns a bit, but no amount of futzing and ending turns got that sovereign moving again.)

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Reply #70 September 19, 2009 7:24:09 PM
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Quoting DoomBringer90,
reply 68
If you restore the files when you get to the menu it restores access to the screens and the few features available.

The frakkety-frak, you say! Research! I've got research going!

(I think someone else, or maybe even you, tried to get this across earlier in some thread or on IRC, but Reply 68 was the first time that I properly grokked Step 2 of the FamilyTree workaround thing.)

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Reply #71 September 19, 2009 10:47:21 PM
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Deleting family tree works for me too. !!!!

Quick question:  How many people have DesktopX installed?  When I look at the file and double-click it, in explorer, it launches as a DesktopX desktop gadget.

Could there be any interaction?????

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Reply #72 September 20, 2009 12:03:46 PM
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Deleting family tree doesn't work for me.  I still haven't gotten past the title screen & haven't seen *any* of Elemental.

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Reply #73 September 20, 2009 4:08:31 PM
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Quoting Txiasaeia,
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Deleting family tree doesn't work for me.  I still haven't gotten past the title screen & haven't seen *any* of Elemental.

 

Same here.   I can remove all files and get past the intro, but just to a black screen.   But just removing the family tree files doesn't help.

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Reply #74 September 20, 2009 8:11:55 PM
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I had the same 'title screen crash' problem. Deleting the family tree file fixed this. Thanks! 

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Reply #75 September 21, 2009 10:21:44 AM
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