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Capital ship factories

Capital ship factories

Why not one factory for all ship types?

Hi.  I had this game for some time now but having not played all that much I'm still a bit of a noob so excuse me if this is  a daft point.  ;) 

Everytime I start a new game I obviously want my free capital ship so I build a factory.  Invairably though I end up demolishing it as I'm short of logistics slots and it's going to be a while before I can afford another CS.  Do others do this? It seems a bit lame and 'unrealistic'.

Personally I don't see the need for seperate factories for different types of ship.  Why not just have the one?

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Reply #26 Top

Yeah if anything I would ditch the frigate factory before the capital factory because the only thing I use the frigate factory for is scouts and colony ships. Other then that my fleet through the first half of any game consists of just capital ships because you don't tend to lose them like you do light frigates so even if light frigates are cheap you are losing money if they get destroyed. Which they often do.
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While I do agree demolishing your frigate factory is a viable course of action, you definitely don't want to go all-cap early game.  That will work against the AI (lots of different approaches will work against the AI), but a human player won't let you get away with it.  The reason you'd scrap your frigate factory is because you'll want to build some closer to the front lines, so the original one deep inside your empire goes unused. Of course, depending on the layout your homeworld may or may not be that far from the front lines.

Reply #27 Top

Quoting Vimpster, reply 25
But I assume anyone asking for help or advise on this forum is playing against the AI inless otherwise stated.
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From what I can tell, the single player/online multiplayer ratio on these forums is about evenly split, 50-50, 40-60, 60-40, or some such.  Forums like this are self-selecting for people who play online since they tend to seek out interaction with other players anyway, at least that's my take on it, which means that probably 99.9% of everyone (about 1 million people?) who bought Sins don't post on this forum and most of them have probably never done more than take a casual glance at it.  (Even 0.1% of 1 million purchasers still comes out to 1000 people, and I'm pretty sure that 1000 people don't post here.)

It would actually be interesting to see Stardock's statistics on how many individual CD keys have been registered with Impulse compared to the number of hardcopies of the game that were sold.  That is to say, what percentage of hardcopy purchasers ever registered their game with Impulse?  I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's a shockingly small percentage and that most purchasers are playing single player Sins v1.00 and have never heard of Impulse, Entrenchment, or Diplomacy.

Frogboy, do you have these statistics?

 

 

Reply #28 Top

Yeah I would assume as much but regardless of the ratio of multiplayer people to solo people on this forum that dosen't change my opinion about those who are asking questions.

 I reason that if someone is asking questions about the game, and arn't specificly mentioning multiplayer in their question, that they are more then likly looking for help against the AI since it seems less likly to me that someone who plays multiplayer would be asking questions about the game, inless of course they were specificly asking about something to do with multiplayer. Reason being that people who play multiplayer are usually more familiar with how the game works.

This is from the perspective of someone who almost exclusivly plays solo in all video games.

Reply #29 Top

It would make more sense to have a generalized ship factory, at least in terms of logistical slots. Then it would only take up 4 logistical unit spaces and you could just queue everything how you like. That would also allow for the amassing of the orbital war factories, such as I did in the last game with the frigate factories in a planet adjacent to the choke point, so that I could field replacement ships readily. So, that would be a useful idea in terms of conserving space.

 

One thought to bear in mind though, the capital ships are much larger and stronger than the frigates and crusiers. Perhaps the frigate factory would be like the optimum design, or something like that, for building smaller military vessels. And perhaps the capital ship factory is built and operated by a different defense contractor or something of the sort. Perhaps TDN is the name of the company which contracts to the military for capital ships.

 

As for what the developers actual reasons are, they'll probably say something or are at least approachable.

Reply #30 Top

No self respecting Military force would brand their ships or equipment with logo's.

Reply #31 Top

Quoting Allegiance86, reply 30
No self respecting Military force would brand their ships or equipment with logo's.
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usaf logo

Reply #32 Top

All of America's military weapons and vehicles are made by the private sector.

Reply #33 Top

Have any of you been in a military vehicle? i bet not. And that Star with the stripes is a military logo I was talking about a Company logo. As for the video.................no shit their made by the private sector but climb in a M1 Abrams or Stryker and your not gonna find the companies logos plastered everywheres those are videos that are made by the companies to sell themselves to the government not a video made by the MILITARY. Their plain. nice attempt to prove me wrong but you came up short. YOU FAIL.

Reply #34 Top

That video remind me too much of star war era *the COLD war not the movie/lucas mind you* heheh despite the radical different in reason/purpose of using a laser system.

Directed-energy weapon (DEW) programs *scroll down a bit*

Reply #35 Top

Quoting Allegiance86, reply 33
Have any of you been in a military vehicle? i bet not. And that Star with the stripes is a military logo I was talking about a Company logo. As for the video.................no shit their made by the private sector but climb in a M1 Abrams or Stryker and your not gonna find the companies logos plastered everywheres those are videos that are made by the companies to sell themselves to the government not a video made by the MILITARY. Their plain. nice attempt to prove me wrong but you came up short. YOU FAIL.
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A) Calm down.

B) Technically, from what you actually said, we DID prove you wrong. You said logo, you didn't specify corporate.

C) As a former defense contractor...it's a mix. The parts will have a logo on them, but it wont be the mold plastic part you see in your car. Ours were always metalized stickerd or engravings. smaller, but still there.

ar-15

 

this isnt ours, just an example of how some companies do it...

Reply #36 Top

Quoting Allegiance86, reply 33
Have any of you been in a military vehicle? i bet not. And that Star with the stripes is a military logo I was talking about a Company logo. As for the video.................no shit their made by the private sector but climb in a M1 Abrams or Stryker and your not gonna find the companies logos plastered everywheres those are videos that are made by the companies to sell themselves to the government not a video made by the MILITARY. Their plain. nice attempt to prove me wrong but you came up short. YOU FAIL.
End of Allegiance86's quote

 

TDN most likely stands for Trader Defense Navy. In my first post I was just expressing a possibility as to why the capital ship factory is separate from the frigate factory, and also why only capital ships have the prefix acronym of TDN while none of the frigates or crusiers do. In the second post, I was trying to give a better example of privatization of military equipment manufacture. Yes the logo in the picture is not a corporate logo, but a national identification type of logo.

Reply #37 Top

And thats what I was responding to..........in the first place...trying to go the extra mile with the pic and video wasnt needed.

And I am calm.......Im just not gonna sit back and someone try to twist what I was saying so they can be an ass.

Reply #38 Top

Quoting Allegiance86, reply 37
And thats what I was responding to..........in the first place...trying to go the extra mile with the pic and video wasnt needed.

And I am calm.......Im just not gonna sit back and someone try to twist what I was saying so they can be an ass.
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I didn't post the picture, but you're right about the nature of the video as for being marketing to the DoD.

Reply #39 Top

I thought my pictures at the very least were representative of the points I was trying to make (both of which were of military items and on point). Both of which points I did make. As to being an ass; whatever, you said something wrong, I called you on it. If that isn't what you meant I couldn't pick that out of what you said.

Regardless, I agree with you (after you clarified between military and commercial logos), you aren't going to see a Ford oval on a Military vehicle. Much less name a ship with the initials of the manufacturing company. ( ihad to go back to figure out what the eff we were even talking about lol).

Reply #40 Top

I love semantics. So many misunderstandings occur from people not appreciating the significance of semantics.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting Vimpster, reply 40
I love semantics. So many misunderstandings occur from people not appreciating the significance of semantics.
End of Vimpster's quote

the "communication age" at its best.. arguing on forums. I think there was a study done a few years ago that said that people estimate that they understand the tone, mood, and meaning of a sentence 80% of the time. After all the numbers were put together, the actual percentage that people being right was no better than 50%. o_O