Agent I am gonna say this again, EVERYONE GET KICKED AT SOME POINT, I BEEN KICKED PLENTY OF TIMES BEFORE I CAME GOOD, whats the point in skilled peoples killing not skilled people? it aint fun, and its too easy.

If people want to kick people, then it is there choice, not ours. and for fuck sake STOP MOANING, your starting to annoy a lot of people on here, with ur consistant moaning.

Well, in all fairness, the majority of players, even in sin's smaller player pool, are individuals not playing with personal friends. They wait and wait for a game to pop up only to get booted from it, so yeah, I could understand how that could be maddeningally frustrating.

However this is probably more or less the dinkleberry on top of the crap sunday that was and always has been ico's online support for sins.

ICO requires two things:

A whole lot of patience, and a whole lot of not taking people too seriously.

Any online game will have Jerks. All the clans have elitist pricks in them (as well as some nice guys, don't get me wrong) so you just gotta take it with a grain, or rock, or boulder of salt. And who knows, maybe one day you'll garner those guys respect by laying some smack down upon them, or helping them out of a tight spot. Bottom line is there's no ICO police to stop people from being a-holes, so all you can really do is just get over it and move on.

I know it is herd for Mr. Grehghost to not feel attacked and to respond defensively.  However, I feel this is a perfect opportunity for him and his clan to show maturity.  Instead of replying negatively to the comments it is an opportune time to reply positively to the comments.

I hope he will take this advice.  Showing that he and his group is a class act can only attract more members to his clan.

good luck.

I wonder how many copies of Entrenchment they sold?  That might be an indicator of how well the game retains people's interest.

Well TBH with you C.I. Agent Kharma has been pissing sooooooooooo many ppl off in other fourms, and i am tired of it.

I really dont give a toss about two guys on the forum who are just arses, and having nothing better to do then moan, frankly get ON WITH YOUR LIFE, either play the game or dont, ur choice.

The fact is, add me to your bitchs list, I dont give a toss, ITS JUST A FUCKING GAME!, the other fact is I have more respect on the forums and on the game, instead of you two dickheads us brits say, if bia and DT want to play with skilled, even if that means kicking dickheads like you out of pug games, I am glad its happening.

Any noobs out there, I would like to apologise if i do kick you guys out of games, from now on, if my game says skilled, then any players above 60 games are allowed, if my game just says 5v5. you are ALL WELCOME to take part in it, without the fear of being kicked.

and I would also like to mention, if you need any advice, tips or trianing, I would be gladly to offer it.

P.S. If I see you agent and CI in my games, you cat bet ill kick ur ass out of my games.

Because Stone Cold Hawky Says So.

16 here

You're Amish- what do you know about sins?  You have to experience sin first to know what it is

omfg,

Wow, got bored reading that bullshit, seriously those, get a girl friend or something.

Any spare time i get is teaching noobs how to play, but I havent been on in about 3 weeks teaching every sunday is becuase I just started Uni, and its stressful .

I RERELY have an argument with a noob, that depends on him being a jack ass by going afk, or arguing at my team that we aint helping him etc. The fact is, every MULITPLAYER game have arguments aginest noobs, that wont change, but people need to learn that THIS IS JUST A FUCKING GAME! - get the picture?

I think I read somewhere that Stardock goes, ' if Firends want to play with friends, then they should be able to kick'. If you yanks want to carry on moaning fine, MOAN ABOUT ME! becuase frankly, I dont Give a Toss!

Real Life is Much More Fun, then moaning about getting kicked from a game, just host another game, theres the soultion.

P.S. By the way, I been smurfing with a noob account, and actually playing like one too, e.g spamming colbalts vs irms etc. and so far, out of 6 games I been in, I havent been kicked, not once.  I will try to get 15 games, then post my results.

I aint moaning mate, stating facts. I am surprised that I need to learn Basic English from a redneck like you, I dont have 3hrs to write a paragraph or essay on the Sins Forum and make sure the spellings, grammer are correct.

I would love to dig a hole, then put you in it

 Define Care:To be concerned: to be interested in or concerned about something

 ^^Read that, I wasent concerned or interested in what you had to say, I read it yes, but doesnt mean I was interested in what bullshit you had to say.

and yes, I do bad mouth some noobs, most people do when some of them are jack asses, but I NEVER TRASH TALK new people who dont know how to play the game, and need advice on what to do. NEVER! if you can find proof of that, then I would galdly say what accusations you are saying is true, if not, then I suggest you shut up and go back to bed, replying to me at 5am? let me guess, been gaming all night fucking nerd?

And for other people to know, All Clans Can be a little arrogant sometimes, but you know the only reason people blame bia more? is because we all wear our tags (except me, I Smurf alot), Siddy, Gini, Starplayer (No offense guys) all smurf and bad mouth people, but never get mentioned,I would love to see all of bia smurfing, like DT, then this problem will be 600 times worse then it is.

I think this thread should be closed, becuase Alliegence thinks hes 'Shitting On Me', and its giving me a hard on.

Recently I haven't seen much of BIA involved in clan activities (ie clan vs clan, or 4BIA vs 6 etc). Mostly they just come and play with their tags on, and occasionally find one of their clanmates to join games with. I don't think its fair to blame the entire clan for what one of their players does, and to associate the attitude of the other players who wear those tags to only one of them. If that were the case, DT would be a league of A-holes just because of Siddy, but most of those guys are nice guys. Hell JJ taught me how to survive in MP.

The largest reason the MP community is so small isn't due solely to the whole asshole factor (every online game has its assholes), there are tons more reasons like:

SP games are super long, Im sure many think MP is the same way.

Smurfs make it difficult to trust that new players are actually new.

Newer online games sap the communities of older ones. (when SC2 hits, its gonna be bad news for sins MP)

Many don't like the fast paced competitive atmosphere of MP

Etc.

I Agree  with deciver and greyfox.

Sins is not built for clans, its too small, but the fact that this forum post  is more like a witch hunt then anyhting else.

I would like to tell you now, if you DONT like playing with a certain person or clan, THEN DONT PLAY WITH THEM. Its simple, host your own game, its not hard, goto host new game - find the map you want and host it.

But I know that CI, Agent Of Kharma, and Alleginace will post some stupid post suggesting otherwise. Lets KILL THIS POST OFF NOW, there is no point in argueing over thi problem, like I said before, if you got a problem with us, or anyone else, just dont PLAY WITH US!

and like deciver said, some people on the game, we dont know if they are smurfs or noobs. Deciver and Darvin (Forum people) I never ever kicked them out of my games, nor has anyone else, BECUASE of the fact that we know that they are acutally people, and not smurfing. There records are below 100 (ages ago), but I never kicked them, due to me knowing that they are acutally players, and not smurfs.

didn't mean that to insult anyone. i put a smiley on the end!