Yea, I know its beta, but im nervous with the direction. Not many of us were shouting diplomacy, we wanted bigger tech trees, cooler ships, different types of wells ........And as a single player locked teams kind of player I'm confused.

There's been talk about how 'feeding' in early game hurts game balance. For example, feeding a Vasari player to starbase the enemy might not be how the game was intended nor balanced for. I don't play online myself, but I can see the point in this.

Just I wish that, for example, you could research espionage to provide you on how much resources at hand a certain player has. Could be a little panel that goes "According to our (relatively weak, nonexistant, strong, overwhelming etc) espionage strength on Player X, we can determine that this faction has approximately X metal, X credits, and is losing X credits from upkeep. This player is currently researching X."

Something like that, obviously, I'd envision a "Espionage Fund" like function in the diplomacy panel that allows you to direct a certain amount of income towards espionage at that player, and likewise one could feed money into one's own counterespionage efforts.

Oh cool, people seem to understand what I'm talking about. These are all good ideas. Basically, it seems that I, and a couple other people, want to have basic abilities (the original treaties, resource giving, missions) be usable either from the start or by researching one tech (universal translator/language). The research could be used to improve efficiency- for example, with no tech, feeding and missions only give %50 of the resources.

Basically, for diplomacy to be effective, you have to start doing it early, before you get into a real slugging match. It's impossible to get friendly with an AI when you're destroying its ships by the truckload since they keep jumping into your systems.

My feeling is Diplomacy should make the game deeper, but having said that, I don't see anything that is going to make me turn off locked teams. Let's remember that SINS is primarily a space BATTLE game.

Even with locked teams, there's a lot of possibilities. Say, friendliness-  a research/advancement that causes cultural loss whenever a certain enemy attacks you (Ie. does damage to ships or structures in YOUR gravity well).

What I'm saying, is so far Diplomacy has seemed to remove or make difficult features that existed- rather than making new, interesting features that spawn new tactics.

Of course, I am interested in pacts, but those aren't really working yet.

I wouldn't worry too much. We're currently in the process of removing the early roadblocks and putting in the updated tech trees for each race. They should be in the next beta update.

Im so glad there are all these stupid issues with using Diplomacy, I knew this addon would be crappy and to see all the issues most of you are complaining about just makes my day.

I still belive that this addon was a complete and utter waste of time to make, they should have stuck to making a normal addon instead of trying to make an alliance with someone you set out to conquer in the first place.