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Yarlen
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Reply #101 February 3, 2010 6:02:38 PM
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Ugh...the dreaded white dots are still there flickering about. T_T

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Reply #102 February 3, 2010 6:48:59 PM
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ALl ill say is WOW   WOOOOWWWWW

 

 now i dont need advent, can spamm with vasa

 

 

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Reply #103 February 3, 2010 9:34:15 PM
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patch looks great so far

 

a few thoughts

 

crashes still happening. Been sending them and cc paul@ironcladgames.com

 

I would still like to see the vas scout get un-nerf for two reasons but actually a buff of 15%

1. Supply cost 50% more then the other races

2. Cost 50% more creds (doing the  5 to 1 ratio for metal/cred convert) then the other two races

 

 

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Reply #104 February 3, 2010 10:01:28 PM
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Think vas scout was buffed not nerfed, current damage infocard says 4, prior said 3 iirc.

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Reply #105 February 3, 2010 10:18:33 PM
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nope, it was 4 then as well, I checked my notes (yes I am that kind of nerd)

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Reply #106 February 3, 2010 10:23:49 PM
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Quoting Ryat,
reply 105
nope, it was 4 then as well, I checked my notes (yes I am that kind of nerd)

It's been nerfed. The 4 is just a rounded version for display (so we don't have decimals everywhere).

 

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Reply #107 February 3, 2010 11:01:49 PM
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hence

before

WeaponType "Projectile"
    damageEnums
        AttackType "ANTILIGHT"
        DamageAffectType "AFFECTS_SHIELDS_AND_HULL"
        DamageApplyType "BACKLOADED"
        DamageType "ENERGY"
        WeaponClassType "PULSEGUN"
    DamagePerBank:FRONT 20.000000
    DamagePerBank:BACK 0.000000
    DamagePerBank:LEFT 0.000000
    DamagePerBank:RIGHT 0.000000
    Range 5000.000000
    PreBuffCooldownTime 5.000000

after

WeaponType "Projectile"
    damageEnums
        AttackType "ANTILIGHT"
        DamageAffectType "AFFECTS_SHIELDS_AND_HULL"
        DamageApplyType "BACKLOADED"
        DamageType "ENERGY"
        WeaponClassType "PULSEGUN"
    DamagePerBank:FRONT 18.500000
    DamagePerBank:BACK 0.000000
    DamagePerBank:LEFT 0.000000
    DamagePerBank:RIGHT 0.000000
    Range 5000.000000
    PreBuffCooldownTime 5.000000

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Reply #108 February 3, 2010 11:21:32 PM
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Well isn't that a 7.5% nerf not 15%? If so what are the numbers for the other two?

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Reply #109 February 4, 2010 9:15:25 AM
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Well wave guns on kurtul are still silent (Entrenchment only), migrator is not fully shielded, and vas mines explosions are soooo tiny... At least phase trap FINALLY works well...

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Reply #110 February 4, 2010 1:03:41 PM
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I whipped through a couple 4x FFA games last night and several observations come to mind:

1) The AI still builds way too many seeker mine carriers (though it IS using them to lay mines).

2) TEC mine sweepers/scouts now lack the firepower to destroy seeker mines before becoming an expanding cloud of debris. This means in essessence they can't do their job without close to a 1:1 loss ratio. I even assigned some flak and other units as protection/additional firepower but to no avail, when the TEC scout is in scanner range of the seeker mines it is also in range of the activation range of the mine. The only real effective means I've found is to drift a capital ship near the field to peel the mine field onion like. The cap can take the hits, esp with hull/shield healing nearby, it is faster at clearing mine fields than scouts.

3) The AI fixates in neutral resources, it is quite easy to provoke fleet engagements by mucking with them. The AI will persist even when I have clearly won. I can even use that technique to distract a fleet from attacking a real target within my empire.

 

Darvroth

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Reply #111 February 4, 2010 2:53:32 PM
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3) The AI fixates in neutral resources, it is quite easy to provoke fleet engagements by mucking with them. The AI will persist even when I have clearly won. I can even use that technique to distract a fleet from attacking a real target within my empire.

I once distracted my enemy fleet for 30 minutes with four Vasari scouts.  It was so funny.

 

I'll agree with you about mine clearing, I'm really feeling the reduced scout DPS here, they clearly don't do the job on their own anymore.  They were pretty poor at it before anyways, and now we have no justification to build large scout strike teams in the first place.

The seeker mine carriers go beyond "building too many".  They build them to the exclusion of everything else!

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Reply #112 February 4, 2010 7:30:45 PM
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Just noticed that you can make 2/2 debris vortex on the orky, but the tooltip still says that ability is on level 1 and there seems to be no change in duration / cooldown. Healing effectiveness is hard to check.

Bug?

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Reply #113 February 4, 2010 8:24:04 PM
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Quoting Darvin3,
reply 111

3) The AI fixates in neutral resources, it is quite easy to provoke fleet engagements by mucking with them. The AI will persist even when I have clearly won. I can even use that technique to distract a fleet from attacking a real target within my empire.


I once distracted my enemy fleet for 30 minutes with four Vasari scouts.  It was so funny.

 

I'll agree with you about mine clearing, I'm really feeling the reduced scout DPS here, they clearly don't do the job on their own anymore.  They were pretty poor at it before anyways, and now we have no justification to build large scout strike teams in the first place.

The seeker mine carriers go beyond "building too many".  They build them to the exclusion of everything else!

We decreased the mine HP's in the same ratio as the DPS drop in the scouts. The result should be indentical to the previous patch. If that isn't the case, plz let me know and I'll have it fixed asap.

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Reply #114 February 4, 2010 8:52:30 PM
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We decreased the mine HP's in the same ratio as the DPS drop in the scouts. The result should be indentical to the previous patch.

I'm more referring to the fact that we no longer have a strong reason to keep large groups of scouts with our fleets, since their combat utility has been toned down significantly.  So we're more likely to be clearing minefields with 2 or 3 scouts rather than 10 or 15.

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Reply #115 February 4, 2010 8:58:31 PM
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apply permanent buff on scouts so that they deal extra 20 damage with each shot to mines. Case closed.

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Reply #116 February 4, 2010 9:06:42 PM
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Quoting N3rull,
reply 112
Just noticed that you can make 2/2 debris vortex on the orky, but the tooltip still says that ability is on level 1 and there seems to be no change in duration / cooldown. Healing effectiveness is hard to check.

Bug?

maxNumLevels 1
Looks like it. (Not that modded stuff, that's from unmodded game)

 

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Reply #117 February 4, 2010 9:32:01 PM
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Blair,

Try it out with a group of TEC scouts in post combat clearance operations and watch them pop, one by one. Occasionally the group will get one, but the most frequent outcome is an expanding cloud of debris and you are down one scout and have successfully cleared one mine.

Darvroth

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Reply #118 February 5, 2010 12:23:12 AM
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Quoting Darvroth,
reply 117
Blair,

Try it out with a group of TEC scouts in post combat clearance operations and watch them pop, one by one. Occasionally the group will get one, but the most frequent outcome is an expanding cloud of debris and you are down one scout and have successfully cleared one mine.

Darvroth

Bah, I'll fix it asap. Thx for finding it guys.

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Reply #119 February 5, 2010 12:39:30 AM
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Bah, I'll fix it asap. Thx for finding it guys.

 

Its what we are here for.

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Reply #120 February 5, 2010 5:05:11 AM
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I forgot to write in the patch notes (though I added to the post above) that for most users, the bug that caused major slowdowns when text was rendered to the screen is fixed.

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Reply #121 February 5, 2010 5:12:09 AM
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How could you!

*draws a .50 cal*

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Reply #122 February 5, 2010 5:40:56 AM
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...

That's 2AM for you, Blair.

When do you sleep? I heard you were on all day...

 

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Reply #123 February 5, 2010 6:26:56 AM
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I just have groups of fighters float near the scouts, it seems to kill them fast enough, although the homing mines are still easier to clear by detonating them.  Mines are just a pain in the rear generally, which I suppose is their purpose, just like in real warfare.

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Reply #124 February 5, 2010 2:39:25 PM
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CrazyElectron,

I agree fighters are great for assisting mine clearance operations but they are easily distracted by enemy scouts and are near impossible to keep near enough to the scouts without intensive micromanagment, and who has time for that when I'm prosecuting offensive operations?

 

Darvrorth

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Reply #125 February 5, 2010 3:18:56 PM
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Blair,

Stardock is showing Diplomacy as Version 1.00, is the final build already ready for down load or is that a misprint?

Darvroth

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