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SMURF DIRECTORY - Who's Who of Smurfs

February 8, 2010 5:40:10 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

This has been batted around for sometime, but the actual implementation of such has been compromised or stalled out altogether.  The idea here is simple; a collection of a smurf directory that will report instances of alternate player names for established or "known" players.  This will necessarily be comprised of accounts reported by and confirmed via substantiated corroboration from the multiplayer community at large.

The categories will be documented as follows:

  • Player in Question - This category will include known player names that are in question of playing under assumed "Smurf" names.
  • Smurf(s) - Includes assumed player names suspected at one time or the other to actually be the "Player in Question" but have yet been determined to be alternate, smurfs, or noobs respectively. 
  • Classification - Classification as such will be submitted from the multiplayer community, and will change according to the status as either:
    1. "Alternate(s)" - Acknowledged by the "known" player as an "alternate" player name.
    2. "Smurf(s)" - Suspected smurf(s), but with no acknowledgement, denials, or requests for retraction.
    3. "Noob" - Genuine new player (this classification may change obviously as player becomes known).
  • Status - Either acknowledged individually by the "known" player, or confirmed as "Common Knowledge" by the multiplayer community as a whole; uncovered or discovered by virtue of circumstances reported in the documenting post. This category can be disputed and potentially corrected by anyone in a post declaring such, and will be duly noted. 
  1. "Confirmed" - by the player in question or community at large, or 
  2. "Denied" - by player in question, or
  3. "NARY" - (No Actual Report Yet) - Submitted, but lacking corroboration for assigned status.

Should any player name need to be reclassified, they will be moved to the appropriate category upon verification via consensus.  Please provide all information relative to the purported circumstances.  Since this is a moving target of "I cannot confirm or deny" type statements unless confirmed, please speak up if you have input.  Of course smurfs can reserve the right to ignore and dismiss this directory, but at a minimum, it will serve as a repository of historical smurf accountings.

 

Smurf Directory - 02/08/2010 Edition

Revised 02/09/2010 [inserted table]

Player in Question
 Smurf(s) Classification Status
RubeelsDaBomb {SB}=>Ferdie 
Smurf(s) NARY
Ruthless Tado fortune, Super Girl Smurf(s) Confirmed
[DT]Whippersnapper [DT]DirtySanchez Alternate(s) Confirmed
Slackah Chiken Cheesebrain, Herby the Spacehead Alternate(s) Confirmed
-Ue_Carbon Children of Dust Alternate(s) Confirmed
Archnemisis {SB}=>Overlord
Alternate(s) Confirmed
MS {SB}=>Spector Alternate(s) Confirmed
Blackhawk141 f-35 Lightning (retraction requested)
 Smurf(s) Denied
N1M TuTu
 Alternate(s) Confirmed
[DT]KL3MZ Solar Raper, Noobeater
 Smurf(s)
 Confirmed
jbaum Space Meth Head, Sova Sister
 Smurf(s)
 Confirmed
[DT]Tyr222 Livin Sublime
 Alternate(s) Confirmed
Capt. Glorius Fabulous Warrior Smurf(s)
Confirmed
Pawelo Kra'hen Imperator Smurf(s) 
NARY
[DT]Howthe? Live free or die Smurf(s) NARY
       
       
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Reply #1 February 8, 2010 5:55:53 PM
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The problem is that any smurf that's been played long enough for us to identify it as a smurf probably has a somewhat established record with at least 20 or so games.  The real problems are smurfs with less than 10 games.  You can get lucky (especially as fat kid riding on a team of good picks) and get a good win % with little to no skill there, or you could be a smurf.  We don't know, and too few players have actually gamed with the guy to vouche one way or another.

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Reply #2 February 8, 2010 6:00:18 PM
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Quoting Darvin3,
reply 1
The problem is that any smurf that's been played long enough for us to identify it as a smurf probably has a somewhat established record with at least 20 or so games.  The real problems are smurfs with less than 10 games.  You can get lucky (especially as fat kid riding on a team of good picks) and get a good win % with little to no skill there, or you could be a smurf.  We don't know, and too few players have actually gamed with the guy to vouche one way or another.
True dat! But...

Potentially, this will motivate the host of a game to start "culling" questionable smurfs?

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Reply #3 February 8, 2010 9:31:20 PM
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i mean like, im not trying to be rude but i am surprised people smurf in this game, or even play this game online. who cares? i guess well im like wow there people who are competitive about this game? is there a 1v1 ladder?

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Reply #4 February 9, 2010 12:34:07 AM
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No 1v1 ladder, but we all know who the top players are. Plus its just so much more fun than playing Ai. Anyway, Proto, good idea but this list will be tough to keep up with, so good luck with that.

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Reply #5 February 9, 2010 4:51:16 AM
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Wonder y u  still trying. U cant win. People will smurf untill devs wont change it.

There r several ways of fixing it but it looks like devs dont want to change current state.

So this treat is pointless as i dont even remeber half of my smurfs.

 

And i heard even Z00MERS promised to never ever kick a smurf out of his game again:) Is very nice of him. a noble guester Z00M.

Unlike Sunny who betrayed a smurf race and started to kick smurf  trecherous Brit

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Reply #6 February 9, 2010 11:37:56 AM
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Quoting 27sneaks,
reply 3
i mean like, im not trying to be rude but i am surprised people smurf in this game, or even play this game online. who cares? i guess well im like wow there people who are competitive about this game? is there a 1v1 ladder?

The reason for playing the game online is because playing the AI does not in any way compare to playing against human opponents.  Games against human opponents are much more challenging, suspenseful, intense, and fulfilling.  In contrast, games against the AI can become predictable and repetitive.  Playing against human opponents also introduces many new strategic elements, especially in team games, that you just won't get from playing with the AI.  That is why people put up with the smurfing, the minidumps, the desyncs, and occassional bad attitudes.

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Reply #7 February 9, 2010 11:39:05 AM
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Chiken, my non-smurf names are:  [DT]WHIPperSNAPper, [DT]DirtySanchez (no space), and DirtySanchez.

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Reply #8 February 9, 2010 12:12:16 PM
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My names on ICO are:

 

-Ue_Carbon

 

Alterneate: Children of Dust

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Reply #9 February 9, 2010 12:41:26 PM
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Quoting Qu4r,
reply 5
Wonder y u  still trying. U cant win. People will smurf untill devs wont change it.

There r several ways of fixing it but it looks like devs dont want to change current state.

So this treat is pointless as i dont even remeber half of my smurfs.

 

And i heard even Z00MERS promised to never ever kick a smurf out of his game again:) Is very nice of him. a noble guester Z00M.

Unlike Sunny who betrayed a smurf race and started to kick smurf  trecherous Brit

 

lol sorry quar, but the last 4 games out of 10 I had last week involved smurfs playing the game, his team losing then him either going afk or building starbases all aorund his worlds and then going afk. 2 hours games turned to 3 hour games, and I werent happy.

and by the way, how do you know i betrayed the smurf rebellion?, I am undercover, as a secret agent for his majesties BlackHawk, and working with MI5 to bring down a known Terrorist group called [DT] - [DICK TERRORISTS], until they have been brought down to justice, the universe will never be safe.

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Reply #10 February 9, 2010 12:45:35 PM
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and by the way.................

IF YA SMEL-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L--L-L-L-L--L-LY WHAT THE HAWK IS..................COOKING

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Reply #11 February 9, 2010 1:25:21 PM
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Zoomers just yesterday was kicking smurfs FYI.  He was also intending to send a message to blair to try to get something done.  A list is fine but the benefit is limited since they will just make a new name if they still want to accomplish their point in smurfing to begin with.  It will require developer intervention to eliminate or reduce smurfing.  There are just too many smurfs/liars out there to expect to gain much ground with community oriented solutions unfortunately. 

 

[_]-Greyfox

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Reply #12 February 9, 2010 1:50:01 PM
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You can gain ground if the entire community decides to fix it. With less and less people smurfing those who do smurf tend to stick out. There is no way 100% measure to stop smurfing. But the online community can foster a better online community. Right now its brutal in a bad way.

 

Really all it takes is for online players to step up and be accountable. And simply stop smurfing!

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Reply #13 February 9, 2010 2:22:50 PM
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Dream on wooman

I like that kind of wohsfull thinking, maybe if the whole comunity decide , can upgrade ico and fix MD

Go on, decide......

 

 

People r peole, u wont ever have 100% agree (unless by force)

The only way to fix smurfing is by devs fix.  Listen to Grey he knows what he is saying.

 

Sunny, u just blow your cover,  u become number 1 on DT traget list. Watch your ass in space i sugest nice iron belt of virginity with some strong forcefied  aroud pussy

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Reply #14 February 9, 2010 2:42:41 PM
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I don't deny smurfing is bad for the community.  I do not do it myself.  The problem is getting the community to agree that its a bad thing when probably a good half if not more of the community smurfs.  It doesn't help the skilled booting noobs problem either and in fact makes it worse.  I had hoped that with diplomacy that multiplayer would get some love in that respect(along with a ratings system/ladder and ICO stability) but such was not the case.  I guess I can dream on and hope the devs do something about it.

 

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Reply #15 February 9, 2010 3:08:10 PM
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My Smurfs are Undetectable.

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Reply #16 February 9, 2010 4:53:12 PM
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Like f-35 Lightning

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Reply #17 February 9, 2010 10:04:34 PM
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Really all it takes is for online players to step up and be accountable.
What he said!

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Reply #18 February 10, 2010 5:19:54 AM
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I aint f-35 duh! quar is.

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Reply #19 February 10, 2010 9:39:05 AM
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JJ sad Quar is Damage Control, stop spreading dissinformation u lausy mi5 agent , Austin Powels

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Reply #20 February 10, 2010 10:05:30 AM
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so if you aint f-35, and i aint, who is f-35? I been logging in as my BlackHawk profile this week.

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Reply #21 February 10, 2010 2:31:22 PM
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Smoke from friendly shaman fire pointed u, so stop denying, noone belives in your words, Austin

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Reply #22 February 10, 2010 5:17:16 PM
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when did i ever start using plane names? and i have played with f35 before, and how can he be compared to me? I am an advent player, he prefers playing tec. if it aint you or dt or bia, who is he? is he ta na na na or n1m?

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Reply #23 February 10, 2010 5:18:51 PM
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and why have i got denied up there? if only one person says that is me? and that makes it my smurf? protoplazam fix up dude.

 

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Reply #24 February 10, 2010 6:48:14 PM
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Quoting Qu4r,
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JJ sad Quar is Damage Control, stop spreading dissinformation u lausy mi5 agent , Austin Powels

Didn't |General Grievous| kick Damage Control's ass in a 5v5 last night?  (I think he knocked down 8 caps before ICO crashed.)

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Reply #25 February 10, 2010 9:23:38 PM
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Maybe Damage is JJ, I saw JJ lose all his caps to uber once...

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