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Quoting Oatesy03,

I think it was because Supcom 2 is so... bland. It's meant to be a sequel to a relatively revolutionary game, yet it just seems like a scaled-down version of the first game and its expansion.

"You think wrong. Let me fix that for you."

That would be because it *is* a scaled down, consolized version of the 1st game&expansion.

SupCom was revolutionary in the same way that Total Annihilation and the 1st Command&Conquer games were; they really set the bar for the genre.

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But, of course, I'm sure you of all people will agree that Dawn of War is an awesome RTS.

Except for Soulstorm. That didn't go so well. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't exactly good either.

"You think wrong. Let me fix that for you."

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Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7476

SupCom was revolutionary in the same way that Total Annihilation and the 1st Command&Conquer games were; they really set the bar for the genre.

Aaah, I remember the good old C&C days.....

Quoting Oatesy03,

reply 7477

But, of course, I'm sure you of all people will agree that Dawn of War is an awesome RTS.

Yep, Dawn of War is really awesome Still one of my favorite RTS of all time. I have yet to play DoW 2 though

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Quoting Oatesy03,

reply 7477

But, of course, I'm sure you of all people will agree that Dawn of War is an awesome RTS.

Except for Soulstorm. That didn't go so well. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't exactly good either.

"You think wrong. Let me fix that for you."

Soulstorm wasn't very good because Relic contracted out the development to a company called Iron Lore. Iron Lore went under shortly after Soulstorm was published, so Relic can't do a lot of patching with Soulstorm (and they wouldn't since DoW2 is their current project), because Relic hasn't got access to any or IL's source code.

But the community has done a lot for Soulstorm.

@morph- Steam has a DoW2 demo; it consists of the first 7 or 8 missions in the SP campaign.

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Then came along a Leaves

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Ryat

Join Date 06/2006

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lol The LionLeaves personality tried to make a pun.

FAIL!

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Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7479

@morph- Steam has a DoW2 demo; it consists of the first 7 or 8 missions in the SP campaign.

Uhm...yeah when I said that I havent played DoW2, I mean that I havent played the actual game, lol

I have actually played the demo that Steam provides, but thats not saying much for me, besides a glimpse of the game.

It seemed really good, but for me, if I dont play the actual game from the beginning, I cant have a clear picture in my mind.

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Well, campaign-wise, DoW2 and the expansion Chaos Rising are pretty solid; while I've never played the CR campaign (despite owning CR; I'm still on the vanilla campaign and unable to finish as my HP fries when playing DoW2 and the Toshiba has lower system specs than the HP (but benefits from superior Japanese engineering) I have it on good authority as being better than DoW2's campaign.

Overall, the DoW titles have usually struggled with the campaign; the exceptions seem to be the 1st DoW title (which has a OMGWTFBBQ awesome campaign), Chaos Rising, and to a lesser extent, DoW2.

Winter Assault's campaign was super-meh, DC's campaign was fun but didn't have the depth and engaging story of the 1st DoW title, and Soulstorm was, well, Soulstorm.

It took DC's metamap campaign (which was pretty good), and made it terribad in the extreme.

MP-wise, I really can't comment; all I've ever done is play MP-style skirmishes against the AI.

However, DoW2 DOES feature a mode called "The Last Stand"; IMO, it has an almost Demigod-like feel, in that it consists of 3 players cooperatively defeating successively more difficult waves of enemies. It's very fun, I've played it quite a bit as the Ork Mekboy hero.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7483

Toshiba has lower system specs than the HP (but benefits from superior Japanese engineering)

LOL, dude there is no such thing

They are all made in countries like Singapore, Taiwan, Thailand, etc.

Toshiba makes a few chips, including flash SSDs, common dram memory chips, and a few other not as critical computer chips. (But even then, they are not actually made in Japan.)

But other than that, your laptop is the work of many different vendors.

As for the cooling, Toshiba doesnt do a damn thing.

About DoW2: I might purchase it sometime in the future, because I have no doubt in my mind that its great, but right now I dont feel like playing any RTS game.

Also, its sad that Chaos Rising is an expansion I would love it if they'd made it like DoW: DC, which didnt require the original game to be played.

Oh well, I guess I'll get DoW2

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Ryat I believe it's time for you to Leave.

C wut I did thar?

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Quoting Ryat,

reply 7481

lol The LionLeaves personality tried to make a pun.

FAIL!

Ignore it for now Ryat. It seems pretty mild in its current state

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@morph- Chaos Rising doesn't require DoW2; the only reason you need Dow2 is to:

1. Access the Space Marines, Eldar, Tyranids, and Ork races in multiplayer

2. Access the vanilla campaign.

Other than that, CR is fully stand-alone, a la Dark Crusade.

Quoting LionLeaves,

reply 7485

Ryat I believe it's time for you to Leave.

C wut I did thar?

Still fails. ESPECIALLY because you use improper grammar and spelling in your sentence that calls attention to your poor pun.

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Quoting LionLeaves,

reply 7485

Ryat I believe it's time for you to Leave.

C wut I did thar?

Pffft, really?

Now Ryat is gonna sit in a corner, cry, and then call his mommy because I big lion hurt his feelings......aaaaww

LOL dude, why do you fail so damn hard?? Come on, at least try a little bit

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7487

@morph- Chaos Rising doesn't require DoW2; the only reason you need Dow2 is to:

1. Access the Space Marines, Eldar, Tyranids, and Ork races in multiplayer

2. Access the vanilla campaign.

Other than that, CR is fully stand-alone, a la Dark Crusade.

I didnt know that. I guess I'll be getting CR then, just as I got DC, he he

You said it was an expansion, so I figured.....oh well, it doesnt matter.

P.S. Hmm....I can get DoW 2 for only 10 €, while DoW 2 CR would cost me 19 €.

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Quoting Altaux,

reply 7486

Ignore it for now Ryat. It seems pretty mild in its current state

No, no no. Ryat is really upset about this. He said that a Lion scared him away

Oh poor Ryat. I feel you. That LionLeaves guy can be pretty intimidating, huh

LOLZ

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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@morph- I actually would suggest getting DoW2 vanilla first, as you can import your finished campaign from DoW2 into CR.

Also, playing through the DoW2 campaign provides a lot of insight into CR's campaign. Plus, you get DA SPESS MEHREENS in multiplayer if you get the original DoW2 in addition to CR.

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BTW DoW2 has some returning characters from Dark Crusade.

We love you Eliphas!

Eliphas, the only Chaos Lord in the original DoW games to have some semblance of sanity, and also didn't have a catchphrase.

Bale: SSSIIIINNNDDRIIII!!!!

Crull: Blood for teh Blood God!!!

Carron: METAL BAWKSES!!!

And then there's Eliphas, crying at the incompitence of the legions of Chaos Marines with centuries of combat experience as they are effortlessly mowed down the second they follow the countless squads that have gone before them (one at a time, of course) into an entrenched Imperial Guard Heavy Weapons Team's line of fire. They didn't quite get the durability right on the Space Marines, did they? The AI was a bit stubborn too...

I prefer the human tanks that are the Space Marines of DoW 2 personally, but DoW2 doesn't have the IG playable yet, and is on a smaller scale, so it's a close call as to which is my favourite.

"You think wrong. Let me fix that for you."

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No, no no. Ryat is really upset about this. He said that a Lion scared him away

Oh poor Ryat. I feel you. That LionLeaves guy can be pretty intimidating, huh

LOLZ

O dear it seems we scared him away

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Quoting Oatesy03,

reply 7491

BTW DoW2 has some returning characters from Dark Crusade.

We love you Eliphas!

Eliphas, the only Chaos Lord in the original DoW games to have some semblance of sanity, and also didn't have a catchphrase.

Bale: SSSIIIINNNDDRIIII!!!!

Crull: Blood for teh Blood God!!!

Carron: METAL BAWKSES!!!

And then there's Eliphas, crying at the incompitence of the legions of Chaos Marines with centuries of combat experience as they are effortlessly mowed down the second they follow the countless squads that have gone before them (one at a time, of course) into an entrenched Imperial Guard Heavy Weapons Team's line of fire. They didn't quite get the durability right on the Space Marines, did they? The AI was a bit stubborn too...

I prefer the human tanks that are the Space Marines of DoW 2 personally, but DoW2 doesn't have the IG playable yet, and is on a smaller scale, so it's a close call as to which is my favourite.

"You think wrong. Let me fix that for you."

Well, a lot of speculation around the 2nd DoW2 expansion, Retribution, has been going on. And a lot of it seems to point towards the Guard being the new race.

As a bonus though, they have an Ork campaign and an ELDAR CAMPAIGN. Now they just need a Farseer with bewbs.

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Quoting morpheas768,

reply 7488

Quoting LionLeaves,
reply 7485

Pffft, really?

Now Ryat is gonna sit in a corner, cry, and then call his mommy because I big lion hurt his feelings......aaaaww

LOL dude, why do you fail so damn hard?? Come on, at least try a little bit

Fail? I had no intention of Ryat going home to cry, dumbass. I just wanted to create an amusing pun. What do you expect me to do exactly with your critism? You want me to try harder? Think again, pansy. I'm not here to impress you, I'm just here to start irrelvant conflicts.

Quoting Altaux,

reply 7492

No, no no. Ryat is really upset about this. He said that a Lion scared him away

Oh poor Ryat. I feel you. That LionLeaves guy can be pretty intimidating, huh

LOLZ

O dear it seems we scared him away

Yeah, I'm seriously scarred of possible middle aged men. /Sarcasm

No, I'm not sure where that idiotic idea came from, but I'm not scared of your petty posts.

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Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7490

@morph- I actually would suggest getting DoW2 vanilla first, as you can import your finished campaign from DoW2 into CR.

Also, playing through the DoW2 campaign provides a lot of insight into CR's campaign. Plus, you get DA SPESS MEHREENS in multiplayer if you get the original DoW2 in addition to CR.

Yeah, I'll probably get DoW2 first, since you know, 10 € is a good bargain

But I have no intention of playing Multiplayer, since I usually suck at these games (RTS). I remember playing SupCom: FA for the first time online, only to get OMGWTF PWNED by an experienced player. RTS games are just not my thing. But I do enjoy playing singleplayer campaigns quite a lot though

Quoting Whiskey144,

reply 7493

As a bonus though, they have an Ork campaign and an ELDAR CAMPAIGN. Now they just need a Farseer with bewbs.

Hmm, I love playing as Orks. I also love bewbs too!

Quoting LionLeaves,

reply 7494

Fail? I had no intention of Ryat going home to cry, dumbass. I just wanted to create an amusing pun. What do you expect me to do exactly with your critism? You want me to try harder? Think again, pansy. I'm not here to impress you, I'm just here to start irrelvant conflicts.

Yet you get kind of upset about me 'criticizing' you, so where's the conflict lol? The only person who's upset here is you.

And about impressing me, YES you ARE here for my amusement, and nothing else. So come on, make me laugh more. MORE MORE MORE

Quoting LionLeaves,

reply 7494

No, I'm not sure where that idiotic idea came from, but I'm not scared of your petty posts.

ROFL

It seems like you keep saying that you're not scared, huh? I wonder why

Come on, relax. Nobody is gonna hurt you. We are all good guys here....I think....

- LionLeaves: *Squeeky voice* "I am not scared!!! YOU HEAR ME?? I am NOT scared of you big bullies! LEAVE ME ALONE! "

*Calms down a little bit*

"Now where's my dipper? Damn, I gotta change my clothes as well."

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Ryat

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Quoting LionLeaves,

reply 7485

Ryat I believe it's time for you to Leave.

C wut I did thar?

yes, you did the same lame thing as last time

failure

go back into the brain

Quoting Altaux,

reply 7486

Quoting Ryat, reply 7481lol The LionLeaves personality tried to make a pun.

FAIL!

Ignore it for now Ryat. It seems pretty mild in its current state

yes it was, but reading LionLeaves response mixed with yours and Morpheas brought a ray of sunshine to my life.

yeah had an ugly day today, it was that bad

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Quoting Ryat,

reply 7496

yes it was, but reading LionLeaves response mixed with yours and Morpheas brought a ray of sunshine to my life.

yeah had an ugly day today, it was that bad

Thats why we're here for, mate. To make your day

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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BLOBBLE BLOBBLE BLOBBLE

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TRUNDLE TRUNDLE TRUNDLE

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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Shiro, I played 1 game as Trundle, to try him for the first time, and....well I pretty much sucked

Went like 5/6/6. I just couldnt hit that damn stone pillar at the right time!

And then I had my TF, who feeded like crazy, and Ultied on 4 enemies, going 4v1s and 3v1s, while none of his allies were near.

My Kassadin was uber noob, starting to build AD at the beginning-mid game, and then he went tank build! He actually, had frozen mallet and Banshee's, LOL

Oh well, I guess thats life. Anyway, have you played as trundle at all? What do you think about him?

"We were inhuman beings....butchers on a field of corpses....corrupt and depraved....only a sum of viscera, blood, and bone - Creatures without soul."

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