Crashing in Win 7 after a long time

So I have Win 7 x64, and after a long match (usually just minutes away from my victory), I get a Sins of a Solar empire has stopped working window that knocks me out. Every time it occured, I was very close to victory. I always suspected the computer of cheating, but this has gone too far. match lengths have varied, but I've been in for awhile... hours.

Also running on a geforce gtx470 /w the 257.21 drivers.

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Probably you are hitting 2GB hard coded limit. Try to turn graphic settings down.

I've got gaming rig here but late game especially on diplomacy my game runs in slow motion. Although I do not crash.

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would I be able to tell if thats the case /w task manager or something? I am maxing out effects and running at 1920x1200....

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Yes task manager will tell you how much memory sins are using.

Just activate resource monitor and go in memory section.....

I'm running on same settings as you and yesterday i played distant stars mod (mod that makes bigger fleets - more research....) On 5v5 map all cruel ais I hit 2 GB limit in 20 minutes..... 

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   Hey, I'm having the same issue as well.  The crashing began when I first installed the Entrenchment expansion back in 2009 and I'm pretty sure that I never had this problem with the original SINs.  Since then, I've gotten a new hard drive and lost my original discs so I purchased the Trinity pack and I'm still getting the same crashes but on a larger scale.

   The game usually crashes (minidump) between 30 minutes and 1 hour of play.  I've tried working around it but it's only getting worse.  The game now crashes whenever an autosave or custom save is logged.

 

   - Sins of a Solar Empire: Trinity 

CPU: Intel 2.83ghz x 4
RAM: DDR2 x 8gb
VGA: gtx 280
OS: Win7 Professional x64 (also crashes on Vista Home Premium x64)

   Running at highest settings @ 1680x1024 res.

 EDIT 1:

   I just started the game back up after shutting the computer down for the night and things arn't any better.  Nearly all of my saved files crash upon loading and a minidump occurs whenever I try to make a new save or autosave.

   On top of that I have lost all of my resolution settings.  I havn't touched a single thing but when I started the game up it booted into 780x420 (or some insanely low resolution similiar) and I don't have any resolution options above 1024.  Of course none of this started until I was 4+ hours into a match already. :/

 

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Maybe something in yours systems trying to fight the 2gb limit.I believe its pointless but try check if your GPU didnt use aditional memory when reach certain amount of traffic,some kind of share memory buff.My GPU do.There can be issue in some games if you have DDR2 memory and GPU with DDR3 memory and the memory try to help GPU.

Now we are in pure theory phase,but you cant set your DDR2 memory speed into DDR3 speed.So...another pure theory....your GPU in full trafic trying to change into different and also lower speed when actually ask for support.

 

Just try,it cannot harm your PC.

And ofc u must find out how to and if.Maybe your GPU dont even have this thing.

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yeah that 2gb limit is what it was for me. i turned down the resolution (1600x1050) and kept all the effects maxed, made it through a whole game, but had an issue /w a starbase i made: it had no textures. it just glowed blue. which was kind of cool for a min or so. You should be doing your testing on small maps to reduce the memory footprint.

now, i have had it do that thing where you cant set the resolution. basically, sins can't figure out any info about your monitor, so it wont let you change it. Try getting a driver for your monitor. if that doesnt work, try this (you might need to enable hidden files/folders):

go to c:\Users\yournamehere\AppData\Local\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire\Setting

where yournamehere is your windows user name. then open a file. /w diplomacy, its diplomacy.user.setting

use notepad to open it. Not too far down, there are the following settings:

VideoFullScreenWidth                   VideoFullScreenHeight

Change the values to the screen resolution you would want to use. I know it sounds like a hassle, but I did this once, then never had the lack of settings again (unfortunately, it tends to list every possible resolution... even those your monitor cannot do, so be careful). Remember, this is due to sins not recognizing your monitor. Other games might have similar issues. You should find a driver for win7 x64. If you cant, try swapping monitors, if you have another. If you have an old old monitor, consider a replacement, they aint to bad in price right now. I just bought a 27" for $300, which is freaking awesome (though, as i said, for sins i am forced to turn it down)

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Quoting SithLordAJ, reply 7
also, https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/383013
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   Thanks for the input.  I'm a huge fan of the larger maps and don't really like playing on anything smaller.  Would it be possible to lower the amount of players / AI and still get the same effect? 

   I also took a look at that thread.  Is this what they are talking about?

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/pae/paemem.mspx

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/wz223b1z(VS.80).aspx 

 

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theres a link in that thread... its the third post down. click that, then go to the bottom of the top post and look for the zip file. thats what i used. and i just finished a game on 1920x1200, max effects, no issues. I'm declaring my problem fixed.

The idea i was saying about playing on small maps was for testing purposes.... to narrow down that the 2gb limit was the issue. smaller maps use less ram because theres less stuff on the board. The games are also quicker, which is ideal for testing. I wasnt suggesting you abandon large maps altogether, just use them to help narrow down the problem. Once you know that is the issue, you could scale the effects accordingly (eg. I have a bigger map than last time and i had an issue at the end, so this time ill bring things down more). Resolution has the biggest affect on ram, seconded by texture resolution. there is a point at which lowering the screen resolution wont have much of an impact on ram, which is when you would drop the texture resolution. but I dont think you would need to drop it that low. And the zip file in that post i mentioned above might negate the problem altogether

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SithLordAJ

Are you actually running that large address aware program?

And if so since it modifies exe do you have problems playing multi player (checksum wise)?