Goody goody. Must be the fastest fixes in sins history hehe.

I also for the first time noticed the new ships for the standard factions. (i normally only play the new ones) thew destroyer types, but when playing tec it seemed that the ships abbilities were messed up a little, had 2 points to spend at lvl 10, and the abbilities themselves and their descriptions looked a bit off too, i need to play them again to see exactly what though just did a quick test of all 3 destroyers.

The advent destroyer class had a flicker same as bad finish condition above maybe, related to its phase missile block field as what pops in and out is the 25% chanse to block phase missile. Besides that it has very visible effect related to the block phase missiles, it realy lights up the christmas tree for all to see. Might be a tad to much perhaps hehe. But up to you offcource.

The vasari seemed fine at first look.

Ill go over them later i reckon, with a more detailed feedback. Nice with new ships though.

Edit: if you want me to pay particular attention to something special just let me know. Like "rogue race" or whatnot.

Here's one of the capturable alien ships I will have in game.

I'd be up for another Nephilim structure or if you have some upgrade ideas for the current models after research.

I just want to finish up Plague too at some point

I was hoping to get this in yesterday but didn't get home till midnight. I have a build zipping up now and should be available a bit later after it finishes uploading. Here's the link you can check back on later today if you have time. I'll leave the link posted for a few days otherwise.

Note there are two extra mods you'll need to activate after the standard activation. Fallen Planets then Fallen Optimized, otherwise the moons will look odd.

I've also included a sneak peak at Hypercorp... Just bear in mind it's an early view and they still have the stock research tree (it's been designed just needs coded). They also haven't been rebalanced or anything so any new abilities or weapon layouts could be odd.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5790092/Temp/Sins%20of%20the%20Fallen%20R3.1%20%28Beta%20Test%29.7z (Started uploading at 10:54 CST, it maybe ready in 30-60 minutes)

Turned out a sub-buff was referenced from the ability instead of the caster buff.

Okay, got a ctd when i alt tabbed from playing hypercorp, got one when i manually tried to build a extractor and got one randomly in a fight. Just mentioned it although it was probably totally unneccesary, hehe.

The biggest issue was that i didnt get up any info on ships/buildings etc when scrolling over it, which limited me somewhat.

But all that aside i did manage to get a good look into what it will be like, and i like it, alot. When i built extractors i noticed that it also seemed to act like a refinery. I assume this is something to differentiate this faction from the others? Even if its just eye candy i like it. It makes for a different experience, so thumbs up there.

I also liked the ships, i actually expected them to be, you know more shiny and polished. They did feel a little rough around the edges, but that in itself made them stand out, i just had to change my shiny new tank look to somewhat dirty well used tank. hehe.

The models were great dont get me wrong, just different than what i expected, but it was a positive experience so not saying i didnt like it, cause i did. Felt more grimdark if you know what i mean.

I liked all the models i could see, they felt like they belonged to the hypercorp faction, which gives good immersion factor, in my oppinion there is nothing worse than a mood breaker in a game so i am happy with this. So far you have done a fine job of fitting the various models where they belong with all the factions really.

I also liked the voices that were implemented, they could have been taken straight out of allied military operations(somewhat atleast), but thats what i pictured from the hypercorp factions so good fit, more voices like those and it will be a strong, good voicepackage.

Lol i wish i could come up with some bad stuff, you know, constructive criticism, but so far i just havent been able to come up with any. Which is good in itself or what?

I did notice the new moon you have implemented. it is a moon i assume? Or is it some orbital creation. It looked fine by the way. If it is a moon, may i suggest that you implement some build options for it. Like some moon based orbital weaponry or maybe something else if you have any good ideas, it could also have population centers etc just like any planet or give pretty much any bonus you wished it too.

I have never understood why stock sins didnt have planetary weaponry that could target enemy orbitals. Even today we have missiles that can reach high into space and theoretically shoot down incoming meteors or space junk. One should expect that in the future they would have more effective stuff. Sure you can fill space with installations, but that dont change the fact that you have to be able to maneuver ships up there aswell and there is a whole unused planet which you can fill with missile silos and high powered energy weapons or mass drivers or whatnot. I think the mod distant stars have planetary weaponry so could probably take the mechanics from there, which i think is a fine idea. Its kinda stupid that ships can just approach a planet and bombard it into dust without any opposition from the planet itself.

Thats what i got to say regarding hypercorp and and the moon so far. I will play through the other 3 factions next and see what i find to comment on there. Hopefully i will find something to harp on and not just praise everything. Or not.

 edit: first thing i noticed when playing nephilim was that the moon had hp. Now that is interesting, so it can be destroyed. Does that mean you intend for it to act as a starbase of sort? Is it a real moon or an artificial construct of sort?

i noticed that the beam defence platforms of the nephaim in this version are a strange texture. I dont know the technical term sadly. They are like totally blue with team mesh enabled and a slightly less blue without, they used to look distinctly different i seem to recall.

Another strange thing that happened was that when the enemy retreated from attacking my planet, they didnt phasejump away, they flew away slowly oh so slowly, 3 mins after they had crossed out into the great black they were still visible in my planet bar.

it works if you do it in the order i did, sotf complete (d), sotf (d), sotf (e), sotf transhuman (d), sotf transhuman (e), then fallen planets and fallen whatever its name was, the other that starts with fallen which is not fallen planets.

i am going out now, just took on my shoes but i didnt quite understand that. Both versions what? you enable everything after another, and it works. There is no trick here, just straightforward enable the various files in the order i said. Going out for a walk now.

Ok , never mind i figure it out by enlarging  the picture and notice that he was putting both D and E  in Dip version..  if you read the instruction without zooming in the picture it really didn't make much sense..

First I'd recommend downloading Release 3 as it is very stable. The beta test version I just posted are for people who don't mind issues and want to provide feedback.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/sins-of-the-fallen/downloads/sins-of-the-fallen-r3-entrenchment-diplomacy

The instructions for activating can be found in the download link for release 3 or in this feature on moddb.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/sins-of-the-fallen/features/how-to-install-sins-of-the-fallen

In short if you are wanting to use diplomacy extract all of the mods into your diplomacy mod folder. Then to play all the races together they should be activated in this order.

Depending on your system specs you may want to decrease your effect settings from Highest/High/Low to High/Medium/Low for ships and structures.

Sins of the Fallen Complete (all three new races)

• Select SOTF Complete (D) R3 and press "Enable Mod"
• Select SOTF (D) R3 and press "Enable Mod"
• Select SOTF (E) R3 and press "Enable Mod"
• Select SOTF Transhumans (D) R3 and press "Enable Mod" 
• Select SOTF Transhumans (E) R3 and press "Enable Mod"
• Press "Apply Changes"
• New features including the Plague, Nephilim and Rogue races should now be playable.

(click on the picture to enlarge it)

OK thank you for the quick replay. I use the old version .  Btw  the new version with the Hypercorp mini dumps when you mouse over a structure . Also the pop up telling you the price and description  doesn't pop up in either the menu or when u mouse over a ship.

i dont minidump when i mouse over a structure, it must be more specific then that. I did however minidump when i manually tried to build a extractor by clicking on it.

Downloading now, eta 2 min. Will commence operations once done.

edit: the ctd that i had when trying to manually build an extractor by clicking on the mine is now gone. The only ctd i have had after 2 hour + of playing hypercorp was when i alt tabbed, and that only happened on the third alt+tab, not every single one like with the previous version.