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[SotF] Sins of the Fallen

[SotF] Sins of the Fallen


 

Sins of the Fallen

Sins of the Fallen


Overview

Sins of the Fallen is a massive enhancement for the critically acclaimed Sins of a Solar Empire.

Major Features

New Races with new strategies
New Planets
Gameplay Enhancing Addons
AI Enhancements

Journals: [SotF] Diplomacy Pacts & Bonuses, [SotF] Improving the AI, [SotF] Cosmos Ad Infinitum

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Frequently Asked Questions

What version of Sins of a Solar Empire is supported?
Sins of the Fallen is a modification for Diplomacy and Rebellion. 

How do you install Sins of the Fallen?
Please read How to install Sins of the Fallen.

Why does your mod have so many folders?
As Sins of a Solar Empire is a 32bit game it is restricted to 2GB of ram utilization as well as other various hard coded limitations. The stacking structure used with this mod allows more than 2GB of content by allowing portions of the mod to be loaded.

Will you support Entrenchment or Vanilla?
No, I did have previous versions that supported Entrenchment (See Release History), but have decided the it was too much effort for one person to try and maintain both.

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Fall of Kobol
 

 

 

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Reply #1276 Top

Zombie will you to model grey and the texture single or the model with texture( paint on the model)

Reply #1277 Top

Zombie i can not send a email on you but i give you a link to my dropbox. i hope this ok

Reply #1279 Top

Zombie i hope you can downloaded my stuff from dropbox, and a question: what are you doing then with the model?

Reply #1280 Top

Quoting sigie85, reply 1279

Zombie i hope you can downloaded my stuff from dropbox, and a question: what are you doing then with the model?
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Considering I can't do anything with the Maya format... I'm doing nothing with the model. 

After that all I can promise is I'll evaluate the model to see if it might fit in the mod. If I think it might fit then I would have to evaluate if the mod is technically viable for Sins (i.e. can be converted without errors to the Sins format). It's a long process.

 

Reply #1281 Top

Export from maya to fbx and XSI/max can open it. It will need some cleanup more than likely.

Reply #1282 Top

Quoting IskatuMesk, reply 1281

Export from maya to fbx and XSI/max can open it. It will need some cleanup more than likely.
End of IskatuMesk's quote

 

ok and we make i this?

Reply #1283 Top

Quoting sigie85, reply 1282


Quoting IskatuMesk, reply 1281
Export from maya to fbx and XSI/max can open it. It will need some cleanup more than likely.

 

ok and we make i this?
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http://download.autodesk.com/us/maya/2009help/index.html?url=Export_plugins_Wavefront_OBJ_export_plugin.htm,topicNumber=d0e624896

Reply #1284 Top

so i hope thats is right and i have upgrade my dropbox i hope you can downloaded this folder ( the Folder has the Name Ship for Zombie. Via an update from you I would appreciate if you could download it and see if it has all worked out

Reply #1285 Top

Hi ! I'm back !

This mod is the best !

i have SinsOfTheFallenReb.1.52.23 and I only use this mods:

SotF Planets SinsPlus Reb.QA

SotF Addon Moons Reb.QA

SotF Addon Artifacts Reb.QA

SotF Race Rogue Reb.QA

 SotF Race Advent Reb.QA

SotF Race Tec Reb.QA

SotF Race Vasari Reb.QA

SotF Core Flagship Reb.QA

SotF Core Reb.QA

I have a problem with Moon, although I research weapon, the moon don't attack.

Second problem, whatever the faction i choose, i can't construct orbital cannon, he say limit reached, but the IA can construct cannon.

How i can resolve the second problem fastly if you know, please?

(i have do a good translation in french for mods i use if you want)

Reply #1286 Top

Quoting sigie85, reply 1284

so i hope thats is right and i have upgrade my dropbox i hope you can downloaded this folder ( the Folder has the Name Ship for Zombie. Via an update from you I would appreciate if you could download it and see if it has all worked out
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Sorry, I won't be able to use the model. It's not compatible with sins of a solar empire (too many polygons). 

Quoting Yupa59, reply 1285
I have a problem with Moon, although I research weapon, the moon don't attack.
End of Yupa59's quote

I've noticed something similar... I need to first change the missile particle used. It's way to small to be seen coming out of the moon. I'll check if there are weapon points too (this is a problem with save games).

Quoting Yupa59, reply 1285
Second problem, whatever the faction i choose, i can't construct orbital cannon, he say limit reached, but the IA can construct cannon.
End of Yupa59's quote

Do you have 4 planets? Rebellion forces you to have atleast 4 planets before a super weapon can be built.

Quoting Yupa59, reply 1285
(i have do a good translation in french for mods i use if you want)
End of Yupa59's quote

I did get a french translation for the vanilla game and included it in the mod. I need to clean up my bing translated part for the mod though (somehow special characters got inserted).

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Reply #1287 Top

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Quoting sigie85, reply 1284
so i hope thats is right and i have upgrade my dropbox i hope you can downloaded this folder ( the Folder has the Name Ship for Zombie. Via an update from you I would appreciate if you could download it and see if it has all worked out

Sorry, I won't be able to use the model. It's not compatible with sins of a solar empire (too many polygons). 


ok sorry but i now not we i make an model with low polygons or we i make this model to lowing poly´s

Reply #1288 Top

Hey have been wondering awhile about the Nephelin Titan, what would you plan on using? would the engineers Spaceship be possible?

Reply #1289 Top

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 1286

Second problem, whatever the faction i choose, i can't construct orbital cannon, he say limit reached, but the IA can construct cannon.

Do you have 4 planets? Rebellion forces you to have atleast 4 planets before a super weapon can be built.
End of ZombiesRus5's quote

Effectively, i don't have 4 planets when i tried to build cannon.

 

Thanks.

Reply #1290 Top

Quoting holy, reply 1288

Hey have been wondering awhile about the Nephelin Titan, what would you plan on using? would the engineers Spaceship be possible?
End of holy's quote

It would be cool, doesn't appear the Juggernaut has been made by anyone.

I did some research and a lot of the Nephilim cooks on the Net think that's what the Engineers are from Prometheus.

 

What I've decided to do is fix on the mesh errors in the last model I received from EternalRequiem (Probably some issue exporting from w/e he modeled in to the wavefront format). I'd like to keep the general look and feel consistent so this will be a plus. I'm about half way through adding the missing polygons back in and then will have to texture it up. At this point I'm fairly confident it will be the Titan.

 

Reply #1291 Top

I did also say that the model was upside down but since it's in your hands you can judge which is right side up or not xD and I recall saying that the model was the highest poly model I've done yet so far. Haven't touched modeling in months and I'm still considered an amateur compared to a lot of the awesome model makers roaming these forums and being a part of mod teams. 

Reply #1292 Top

Here's what the model looks like for me: 

All the blue parts are holes in the mesh...

Here's my wip filling the holes:

Reply #1293 Top

Hmmm... odd and those areas are part of the sunken in parts of the ship that I made to give the ship more detail correct?

Reply #1294 Top

Question/suggestion: Would it be possible to add a colonizing effect onto the Nephilim cannon?  Each cannon shot would flood the area with culture and/or colonize it if it's a free to colonize planet.

For concept, you can inject the idea of "transferring Nephilim life energies" into the planet's denizens.

Reply #1295 Top

AI enhancements:

please explain :)

Reply #1296 Top

Awesome Mod! :thumbsup:

 

Please allow me to give you some feedback:

 

Notice: I have written this after a very bad day at work, so I apologise in advance for lack of order and  the wall of text.

 

General:

It might be a good idea to place the installation instructions outside of the folder SotF Core Reb.QA. The download archive would seem to be a better place. That way you would have it visible after unpacking. At the moment unless you know that it is in SotF Core Reb.QA you are in for a lenghty search.

 

Faction/Race overview: While you have posted quite some interesting stuff here and on ModDB, it is still somewhat lacking. Especially a general overview about racial/factional strengths and weaknesses. For example it is very hard to tell what is the - intended difference - between Rogue Traders and Rogue Syndicate. Similar with Hypercorp and Psicorp. Or the Colonial/Cylon Rebels/Loyalists.

Something like:

- TEC Loyalist: Strengths: Good defense and late game eco, very durable Titan. Weaknesses: Titan lacks firepower, weak on the offensive. Preffered strategy: Provoke enemy into wasting his ships on your fortified worlds.

- TEC Rebels: Strengths: Good offense, Titan can 1o1 any other Titan. Weaknesses: Weaker defense, Titan not as good in sustained combat. Preffered strategy: Offensive... offensive... offensive.. and never look back.

 

 

General information:

Rebellion 1.52 with DLC Forbidden Worlds

My order of activation:

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NOTICE: I integrated SOTF and SOTF Fall of Kobol in my mods folder.... so your checksum may vary, even if the BSG related stuff is not activated at the moment.

 

SotF Core Flagship Reb.QA

  • Getting a random flagship at the start of the game is certainly a cool features, but it does have some possible balancing issues: Depending on what flagship you get, you might be at a disadvantage compared to the same race getting a "better" capitalship.
  • Other than being slightly more durable and having more firepower, there isnt anything that makes the flagship special.
  • Maybe I was just unlucky, but it seems that you can only get Vanilla Capitalships as Flagships.... at least I never got a Vera Class Flagship.
  • IDK if it is possible to have faction specific flagships? For example, TEC Rebels get Marza, TEC Loyalists get Kol.

 

 

SotF Addon Disable Superweapons:

Funny side note... does - naturaly - not disable Rogue Syndicate Titan Mini Novalith^^

 

Advent: The new capitalship is very cool. And with portable Mass Dissorientation and Power Surge its is quite powerful. And the phase missile block tech does WONDERS in the Vasari VS Advent matchup.

 

Hypercorp: Havent played them much, still unsure what defines Psicorp. Titans feel underwhelming compared to the juggernauts of other races.

 

Nephilim: I love the race. They might be slightly op though. They have multiple things speaking in their favor:

  • Trade Port = Culture Center.... meaning you and the AI can and will spam them like there is no tomorow. Not only you will earn a huge amount of money, but you will seriously press your enemy into  building a significant amount of counter culture centers.  Having a Nephilim next to my already besieged empire quickly becomes problematic.... because that relative insignificant attack that cost you one culture center on the other side of your empire quickly causes red lines everywhere. Lines you have to spend considerable logistics to push back again.
  • High cultural upgrades.... making their already formidable economy even more powerful
  • Good defense - Having Shield Bestowal on the puny and cheap turret helps a lot to keep your important structures alive. Starbase is nothing to sneeze at either.
  • Deceptivly weak ship stats hide their true power quite well...

"Hostile forces have arrived" - I have an halfway upgraded Orky... that is more than enough to deal with 3 cap ships and a bit of support, isnt it? Our starbase has been destroyed.... WHAT? o_O

Or what about mopping up that few lousy planetary defenders with my Titan supported fleet? "Our Titan has been defeated!" Half my fleet lost and those damm few ships are still in comparable good shape. o_O

Enough... time for merciless focus fire..... DIE...... DIE.... "One of our capitalships has been lost"..... Mine not his #:( ... come on.. DIE... One of our capitalships has been lost... I HATE YOU! :P   but the cruisers should finish the job, just 800 HP left.... --> cruisers die..... enemy ship is still alive. --> RAGEQUIT! ;P

 

Of course after a few battles you retreat in time/bring enough firepower with you.... but the surprise effect is indeed notable.

The combined hull and shield restoring abilities make it a major pain to kill any of the capitalships, unless you have vastly superior firepower. Add a mid level Coronata and the Nephilim ROFLstomp most things with only minor losses. Add an immensivly powerful culture attack and you often really cant afford a second front line, without loosing half your empire to the Nephilim in no time. Any and all Nephilim incursions needs the large majority of your military to push back.... unhealthy when you are under attack from another enemy.

 

Suggestions: It might be a good idea to tune down their eco a bit.... considering their vastly powerful military and their slot saving due to not having culture centers.

 

Rogue Trader: YARR! :ninja: Please allow me to congratulate you on the HILARIOUS research descriptions. I laughed a lot when reading them.  :grin:

The race is rather tricky to learn and to play, the population loss from not maxed out logistics does notable slow down early game as you are rather soon forced to build lots of logistical structures to avoid falling behind economically against other colonizing empires. On the other hand, the powerful Arcardia colony capship is quite capable of dealing with most militias on its own. The Rogue Raider is a very powerful non capital colony ship and can put a swift end to fledging hostile settlements or militias, especially if fielded in numbers.

Having a few of those attacking multiple planets of the enemy at the same time can be very devastating. One the one hand, you need some serious firepower to take them down on the other hand they bomb planets into oblivion quite quickly. With the early available speed upgrade, catching them can be difficult, too. I am glad that I did not have to face them used by a human enemy yet. ;)

They have only one drawback, the focus planet bombing above everything else. So unless you repeatedly give them attack orders, they wont fire on the important enemy ships until the planet is dead. Maybe they should focus on ships first and then go to planet bombing?

And please consider giving them the pirate voiceover.... the TEC colony frigate is not up to the job^^.

 

The Yamoto Titan:

  • Awesome model! First time I saw a enemy one I was like... WTF.
  • That is of course just a question of personal opinion... but please consider exchanging the Ragnarov Gaus Bolts with the Arcardia Gaus Bolts. They look much better imho. Also to make it more different from the Ragnarov.... the Guns should fire in sync... like on the Arcardias. (All 3 guns fire at the same time.... than are silent... then fire again and NOT the one by one fire of the Ragnarov. Ohh.. and  please increase their projectile speed to that of the Arcardias. 
  • Asteroid Defense - what a nice idea! Obviously it lacks a graphic representation, which is sad. Although I do of course realize, implementing such a thing may be very difficult. Maybe the ability should be redesigned to an offensive one?
  • Funnel rockets. Funny... but they seem to be rather ineffective?
  • Ultimate reflexive aura..... I am unsure.... does it have a graphical effect on the ship?

 

The Pirate ships: While very fun, having no shields makes them more of a liability than a help. Especially in late game. The Rogue Raider, although being a colony ship, seems to be more effective in battle, due to having shields, multiple banks and bombing capability.

 

Research tree: The Rogues research tree causes confusion when you firstly play that race. Things you would expect in "civil" are in "military" and vice versa. After getting used to it, it is perfectly fine though.

 

Capital Ships: I really like that you have to take a disadvantage when choosing and advantage for many of your capitalships.

 

Rogue Syndicate Titan: The Mini Novalith is hilarious. The ship however seems to be rather easily overwhelmed, besides having tremendous firepower.  :S

 

 

So... I think that is enough of a text wall for now.... :blush:

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Reply #1297 Top

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Awesome Mod!
End of ARESIV's quote

k1  Thanks for the great feedback. I'm still digesting some of this and will give an appropriate reply with comments when I'm able.

Reply #1298 Top

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
It might be a good idea to place the installation instructions outside of the folder SotF Core Reb.QA. The download archive would seem to be a better place. That way you would have it visible after unpacking. At the moment unless you know that it is in SotF Core Reb.QA you are in for a lenghty search.
End of ARESIV's quote

I can't think of any mod that does this currently. I was a bit hesitant putting files outside of the mod folders. I already have enough spam with the number of folders I have in a manner of speaking ;)

Quoting ZombiesRus5, reply 1297
Faction/Race overview: While you have posted quite some interesting stuff here and on ModDB, it is still somewhat lacking. Especially a general overview about racial/factional strengths and weaknesses. For example it is very hard to tell what is the - intended difference - between Rogue Traders and Rogue Syndicate. Similar with Hypercorp and Psicorp. Or the Colonial/Cylon Rebels/Loyalists.
End of ZombiesRus5's quote

I have the same problem with the vanilla factions. Other than one or two researches the main different between the factions is some flavor text, their relationship penalties and Titan. I probably shouldn't have bothered even making a Rebel/Loyalist split. 1) It would have been less work. 2) The factions are already pretty much split that way naturally across all 3 mods. 3) I'm not really a "good" writer of lore.

What I did have was an idea for different Titans for the factions and wanted to keep in line with Rebellion Theme at the time. Nephilim and Plague won't be getting split up though.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Getting a random flagship at the start of the game is certainly a cool features, but it does have some possible balancing issues: Depending on what flagship you get, you might be at a disadvantage compared to the same race getting a "better" capitalship.
End of ARESIV's quote

It's weighted to give a colony capital ship first, then a battleship, carrier or siege. Support ships or other "special" capital ships are not possible. I found it not fun getting a support capital ship as my flagship.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Other than being slightly more durable and having more firepower, there isnt anything that makes the flagship special.
End of ARESIV's quote

Agreed.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Maybe I was just unlucky, but it seems that you can only get Vanilla Capitalships as Flagships.... at least I never got a Vera Class Flagship.
End of ARESIV's quote

See above.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
IDK if it is possible to have faction specific flagships? For example, TEC Rebels get Marza, TEC Loyalists get Kol.
End of ARESIV's quote

It's possible, but generally people seem to like the random aspect to this. I almost didn't port this to rebellion because of the new flagship victory option, but people seem to like it so I ported over.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
SotF Addon Disable Superweapons:

Funny side note... does - naturaly - not disable Rogue Syndicate Titan Mini Novalith^^
End of ARESIV's quote

Nope, it's not a superweapon ;)

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Nephilim: I love the race. They might be slightly op though. They have multiple things speaking in their favor:

End of ARESIV's quote

Thanks, I'm happy people like them. I wasn't sure how well they would be liked.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Trade Port = Culture Center.... meaning you and the AI can and will spam them like there is no tomorow. Not only you will earn a huge amount of money, but you will seriously press your enemy into  building a significant amount of counter culture centers.  Having a Nephilim next to my already besieged empire quickly becomes problematic.... because that relative insignificant attack that cost you one culture center on the other side of your empire quickly causes red lines everywhere. Lines you have to spend considerable logistics to push back again.
End of ARESIV's quote

It's one thing the AI does seem to actually do. They earn less trade income per port though (1/2 of a normal port). 

Advent loyalists are pretty devastating too with Rebellion and more so with the DLC.

If the AI is spamming culture you pretty much have to park a capital ship in the gravity well nearby.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Suggestions: It might be a good idea to tune down their eco a bit.... considering their vastly powerful military and their slot saving due to not having culture centers.
End of ARESIV's quote

I'll look at their balance again. They are meant to be a tough faction to go up against (Higher supply but more Durable).

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Rogue Trader: YARR! Please allow me to congratulate you on the HILARIOUS research descriptions. I laughed a lot when reading them. 

End of ARESIV's quote

That was fun to put together when I was collecting research on pirates in general.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
They have only one drawback, the focus planet bombing above everything else. So unless you repeatedly give them attack orders, they wont fire on the important enemy ships until the planet is dead. Maybe they should focus on ships first and then go to planet bombing?
End of ARESIV's quote

This is a Sins hard coded thing.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
And please consider giving them the pirate voiceover.... the TEC colony frigate is not up to the job^^.

End of ARESIV's quote

This is a good idea. I'll do it.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
That is of course just a question of personal opinion... but please consider exchanging the Ragnarov Gaus Bolts with the Arcardia Gaus Bolts. They look much better imho. Also to make it more different from the Ragnarov.... the Guns should fire in sync... like on the Arcardias. (All 3 guns fire at the same time.... than are silent... then fire again and NOT the one by one fire of the Ragnarov. Ohh.. and  please increase their projectile speed to that of the Arcardias. 
End of ARESIV's quote

Thanks, I hadn't considered that.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Asteroid Defense - what a nice idea! Obviously it lacks a graphic representation, which is sad. Although I do of course realize, implementing such a thing may be very difficult. Maybe the ability should be redesigned to an offensive one?
End of ARESIV's quote

Agreed, particle effects aren't really my forte' at this point. It would be cool to have them actually rotating the structure, which I do know how to do now. Low on the totem pole but it might happen.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Ultimate reflexive aura..... I am unsure.... does it have a graphical effect on the ship?
End of ARESIV's quote

Will have to look.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
The Pirate ships: While very fun, having no shields makes them more of a liability than a help. Especially in late game. The Rogue Raider, although being a colony ship, seems to be more effective in battle, due to having shields, multiple banks and bombing capability.

End of ARESIV's quote

I understand, but I wanted it to be like they were hiring the pirate ships versus building them with features they don't normally have.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Capital Ships: I really like that you have to take a disadvantage when choosing and advantage for many of your capitalships.

End of ARESIV's quote

Thanks, that was fun to put together.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
Rogue Syndicate Titan: The Mini Novalith is hilarious. The ship however seems to be rather easily overwhelmed, besides having tremendous firepower. 

End of ARESIV's quote

I think it was on par with the Ragnarov, but I'll look at the stats again. I didn't want it real tanky because it's a giant target in space.

Quoting ARESIV, reply 1296
So... I think that is enough of a text wall for now....
End of ARESIV's quote

Thanks again, great feedback.

 

Reply #1299 Top

Hi,

i like artifact vessels but i'd like more, i'd like to try to add one.

can you help me by telling me the file I must change?

I have *.entity, *.mesh and *.DDS files. For entity, i copy the alien and just modify weapon, icon, etc...

If i replace name of files of my new ship to alienbattleship, it works well.

 

Thanks you in advance,

 

Yupa

Reply #1300 Top

yupa59, you would have to add the extra entity files to the entity.manifest, and add the entity's to the relevent playerRACE.entity and do NOT forget to adjust the counts in the manifest and playerRACE.entity.

harpo