i would much rather like to see a SOSE 2  than another expansion.  At the moment i think sins is a great game but with a new base of coding and with much better systems out there there is just so much farther the game can go where i think atm its almost at its limits of being capable to do. I swear there are tons of molders out there that can agree that the 2gig limit theshold is tight to work with and a new base for the game would be a HUGE step and bring a much newer fresher fan base. The game is great as the rewards and fan base will say so i would stay on the same path and try and improve with what they got.

some ideas would be

: mix in a tad RPG to the RTS with mabey a story / missions ect

: mabey add a first person veiw from certain ships that you can engage a battle with a fleet to give orders and than enter persay to take full control of a specific ship mabey caps only or extend to a few most used ships "molders could have a hayday here"

: definitly needs a story line with different paths for those single player games

:raise the gig limit to a max or set an option that allows the user to adjust how much he wants to run 2 4 6 or 8 ect

:a great setting i would love is a ture med ultra combat mods  ( each setting would adjust the amount of starting hps a ship would have " as when theres hual failure mabey weapons engines or manuerability may be lossed"  as well as ships destroy much faster when sheilds are down.

:add in the dynamic mod to all new games and mabey add some tweeks to it  "props to manshooter again"

"entend more on resourses 5 different resourse would be good basic ships need 3 to produse cursisers use 4 types caps need 5 types. 2 higher end types cant be bought through he black market but may be traded amoung allies

add any others you would wish to see

semz i also like the idea of a univere, where you can move from one start system "galx" to the next taking over the entire area sorta like a total war feel zeroing in on seperate areas for the mission/campaign

off topic eve is great but hate p2p X3-TC and reunion are great alts but a tad to much like a simulation to me but the graphics i lean towards when id like to see a 1st person combat veiw from my ships even if its only a veiw mode "would like to see my ships being destroyed 1st hand lol"

I for one would love a new expansion.  Mainly because as a long times sins player, we were promised 3 expansions, and Ironclad could keep their word. 

Sins 2 i think will happen, sins 1 had great sales, and the company turned a profit.  A repeat would understandably bring in some more profit!  I know i will buy it, and hopefully beta test it.

Micro expansions were death for the online portion of the game.  The community for games like this typically consists of the online gamers.  Not really indicative of sale levels a few years after release.  Sins did very well, the expansions, probably not so much, but expansions rarely do anything resembling the original sale levels.  Sins was a gold mine.

If there isn't a second it's because the devs don't want to rehash the setting, not because of sales expectations.  The old, pre-expansion numbers were 500k copies on a sub million dollar budget, a 1000% profit margin would be a good guess for what came of the venture.  If you can do half that after sinking twice as much into expanding and updating the game for a second release, you've still made obscene returns on your investment.  The bean counters like established franchises, they're predictably profitable.  Even ones that are expected to do little more than break even have a better shot of being made than a new title of risky pedigree.

kyigre12 i complete agree with you,

also as it was mentiond just like most games you cant compare a expansion sales to the main game sales theres always a seadly declain as each expansion proceeds. since theres a falling out of players and such or the game just gets shelved. but as i said if the game stands by its key elements and trys to bring new freash features to the table that are possible that werent during the first run and much updating i belive just as many games sales with exceal and possible surpace the origanal. But to do this they really need to highly expand on what they already have,  maintain the RTS but make you want to cry and jump out the window when that marza gets destroyed.  by such as you could have captains admerals ect that you may move from ship to ship by some sorta docking features giving the game a much more rpg feel allowing you to feel persay for certain ships. where atm its just "ahh make another one"

these personal ppl may be given 1 at the start and others demend from surving battles a ship getting so many kills ect. This also opens a door for new bonuses ect as 1 cap may get higher speeds another higher firpower better cult repeal ect list is almost endless.allowing for an even more rts by putting certain crews amoung a squad

I'd like to see an official universe myself. Maybe not necessarily a playable with 100% everything, but I'd still like to see the regular maps being given a location in the Sins universe and some background as to its history.

Anybody here played Dawn of War: Dark Crusade? Remember how you could bring up info on the provinces. I really liked that. Gave the scenarios some much needed life.

Doing the same for Sins is pretty easy.

And trust me, it does improve the game.

It would also be greate to travel where you want and not just in the Phase lanes.

I think they definitely need to make a campaign for it because tons of people have clamored for one.  I'd like to see them come up with some sort of a way to include encouragement to try it in online multiplayer as part of the campaign, near the end of the campaign perhaps.  Maybe an optional path on the campaign could require players to get online and play a couple games against human opponents and be on the winning team to move forward in the campaign.  It could be set up to automatically match players against other people who are also doing the campaign.

It would also be good if the game came with a campaign editor so that enthusiasts could make their own campaigns that other people could freely download and play.  Like custom maps and mods, it would be a way for the developers to add value to the intellectual property without having to do any or much work on their own.

They're developed by different companies (Stardock and Ironclad). They're not mutually exclusive.

I could care less about a single player story line. I say keep that idea locked away for a movie.

that. could. possibly be. incredibly awesome.

I think in the next game the devs should include whatever is chasing the vasari.

now i know you will be thinking OP! OP! but to balance this, we could have it so that for every ancient enemy player on one team, there has to be 3 non-ancient enemy players on the other team. OR, there could be an Alliance faction player (Vasari Rebel, TEC Loyalist, and Advent Rebels) for every ancient enemy player. i don't know what techs the suggested new factions might have, but i'll leave that to the devs.

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The unique feature that a SOASE 2 would need, it should be ground combat. Some similar to the old Imperium Galactica. With it, it would be the best of these games.