It's good that I've decided that, bad that I've also decided other people aren't worth the effor of getting to know. The happiness a relationship can bring will always be eclipsed by the effort to establish the relationship, and the pain of ending it.

1st Base: Kissing and Hugs.

2nd Base: Boobs, Butt, Tongue, and possible biting. (Hickeys, etc.)

3rd Base: Sexual Teasing

Home Base: Sex.

I've decided to use names, so bear with me.

Chelsey (her friend) started texting me yesterday when Hannah's (girl who loves me) ex started harassing her over the phone again. I told her to ignore him, and if she couldn't, give her phone to Chels, who was nearby. So, Chels and I started talking over the phone about how Caleb (Hannah's ex) is a parasitic douchebag who's only using Hannah to justify himself and prove he's not a failure. Anyway, point being Chelsey's "gift" as they say is her ability to read people.  Despite never having read me, she told me I'm a fire type, despite being semi-depressed, calm, calculating, and collected, I'm a Fire because of, and I quote "Fire isn't just about being ruled by your emotions and trying to gain power...Fire is also about passion, the flame of the soul. Even though you're depressed, you hold your passion close to your heart, and never give up or let go... your passion even lets you help others when you have nothing to gain." Thankfully, she doesn't know what I'm passionate about (Mishayla; my ex and my father. Opposites sides of passion, Love and Hate, yet they're there)... and since she already had such insight into my character we're already regular friends.

If you don't wanna read the wall of text above, here's the point: Point is that Chelsey is convinced that I'm the best thing possible for Hannah, so if I do start in a relationship with her Chelsey would force me to make the change from casual to serious. Right now the thing's a mess, the pro's and cons are equal again:

Pro: I can get ALOT closer to Mishayla by hanging around Chelsey and Hannah.
Pro: With Chelsey's encouragement, Hannah and I are ALOT more likely to be in a relationship.
Pro: Maybe by looking into the whole Wicca thing, I could get help in choosing which side of the coin I'll end up landing on; my love for a girl; or my hate for a man...

Con: Once again, the drama involved... (Chelsey's boyfriend has a big crush on Hannah, and might have just dated Chelsey to get closer to Hannah, in the most recent development)
Con: WHEN Hannah and I do seperate, the same thing that happened the last time I broke up with a girl will occur, i.e., I'll lose all my friends because they'll be more sympathetic for her than me.
Con: The very real possibilty of having to fight bitches who wanna hurt mah hoes, putting it simply. In other words, I'll have to do double duty and keep Hannah safe and happy while at the same time making sure Mishayla doesn't fall for some asshole like she has a bad habit of doing.

Xer0 \^/

I'm not going to comment on the Wicca thing because I'm 99% certain that you'll simply ignore whatever I say.

That said, go for the girl. Your dad, as terrible a person as he is, isn't in the picture. You don't know him; more importantly, you don't know where he is or even if he's still LIVING. I'm am NOT trying to justify his actions by any means. What I am saying is that you should forget about it. As bad as it is, never being happy is worse. So, I encourage you to develop relationships with people. It will help.

Two things:

1. If you know you're going to break up with a girl you're considering dating, why initiate the relationship in the first place?

2. Why are you certain that you're going to separate?

Correlating the two above points, is the fact that (speaking from experience), you should only try to get into a relationship wherein you could see yourself married to the person you're considering. And when I say "married", I mean married for the rest of your life. None of that divorce BS.

If Mishayla happens to fall for asshats, and she has a habit of doing so, maybe she simply hasn't learned that such people are not conducive to her mental, emotional, and/or physical health. If that's the case, then the best advice I can offer you is to let go. Because otherwise you're never going to get rest, and you'll always have divided attention.

I see.......

Informative, but, excepting #1, items that should mostly be restricted to marriage relationships.

Assuming you believe in marriage...

Xer0:  Your posts are long and there are a lot of them...I might read them later...maybe...but you don't seem to be actually worried about anything, and from what I skimmed, you aren't really asking for opinions, so I'll probably just start from here.

BTW........ WHERE WERE YOU, I THOUGHT YOU DIED!!! 

Seriously...I couldn't even get a response on facebook...wtf?

-Twilight Storm | Is angered that my family decided to light fireworks off without me for no apparent reason...when they knew I had plans tonight...Grrrr

Twi: My mom jacked my Facebook account. Unfriend me and find Lucied Cifer, my new one.

Whisk:

1) I don't know where he is, but thanks to Facebook, I have a face and a confirmation that he's alive. Regardless, I hear what you're saying... moving on from something that's defined me for the bulk of my life will prove hard, though.

1.5) I'm well aware of your "Nothing is real but God and Jesus" beleifs, thanks.

2) All relationships end, from death, forced seperation, or internal strife. That's my view on the matter. On a related note, I know we're going to seperate because she plans to stay here, or move to one of the New England states, where Marijuana legalization and Gay Marriage are quickly becoming legal. (Connecticut allows for both now) wheras I'm going to California once I get a degree, then enlisting in the Army/Marines (havn't figured out which yet, Army is less work, but Marines have more pride) and becoming an officer thanks to my degree.

3) I tried the whole "date people you only wanna marry" thing with Mishayla. I still have the card she gave me, with a poem about how I'm the air she breathes and the blood in her veins, even signed "Love you forever and a day"...

4) She hasn't fallen for an "asshat" since we broke up, she's just falling for the wrong people. Most recently, a selfish, bipolar girl who only wants what will make her happy with the least amount of strings attached. Said girl has a boyfriend now.

0) No, I'm not concerned about any of the happenings currently. I've decided that worrying about things you can't prevent or control isn't healthy... but, I'm probably alot "more emo" because of that. Ladies love dark, brooding guys with emotional scars.

On a side note: I'm debating who to use for my new Avatar;

Ulquiorra (emo badass of Bleach): or  or

Richter (Yes, the Richter Abend who once inspired my username):

I'll try to find a girl from Shuffle! later...

Xer0 \^/

I'm going to simply say that that's not really what I believe. OTOH, I'm similarly aware that you don't particularly care about what I have to say about my beliefs, so I'm not particularly interested in elaborating them.

I'll simply note that people change, as do their ambitions/desires. What she desires now, and what she desires in the future, can and probably will change.....the same goes for you as well.

Unrelated: what's the big deal with marijuana legalization and/or homosexual marriage legalization? The former I haven't yet formed an opinion on, but the latter I am solidly against.

The "date people you desire to marry" thing runs deeper than you think; it's not just you exclusively dating persons you would want to marry, it is a mutual feeling between both parties that the romantic relationship has the end goal of marriage and a family.

Obviously, this is the reason that your relationship with Mishayla failed in that regard; from what you've said, she is probably not interested in forming a relationship with you that is going to last that long....or with any person, for that matter.

So an asshat, then. To tell truth, there's just a point at which people who make the wrong choices in a repeated, consistent manner must simply be left to the consequences of said choices. You don't try to help them out of the consequences, and you don't try to help them avoid making the wrong decision in the future.

You simply let them keep making the wrong choices until either they die or they figure out they shouldn't do such things anymore.

Just to clarify the "die" part, I'm not saying that making consistently wrong/poor decisions will cause death......it can, yes, but what I mean is that a person can keeping making said decisions up to the time of their death, without said choices being the cause of their death.

I've found that women tend to like considerate, confident men. This actually drifts over to fiction writing, but very often a "dark, brooding" character is mistaken for a character with emotional depth. I'm not saying that a "dark, brooding" individual can't have emotional depth, but that many times in the current day and age of fiction writing, "dark, brooding" is all too often equated to "depth".

Leave it the one you have unless it really bugs the crap out of you.

Primula or the blue haired demon princess were my favorite characters from Shuffle, in that order.  Just sayin...and there is a list of animes you should look up in the good idea/bad idea thread.

I'll send a friend request to you now.

How did ur mom jack ur account?  You mean she stole it, ciz thats creepy...

Or did she change ur password so you can't log on, cuz that's f-ed up...

-Twilight Storm

Did you spell that name right?  Nothing came up for that name.

-Twilight Storm

Twi: I requsted you. Basically, I forgot to log out one day and she found it, changed the password and won't give it back. Primula? A little... Lollli, don't you think?

Whisk:

2) She's ruled by her hormones, pure and simple. Problem is, her hormones don't help her much... lol. Anyway, I'm done with women. Serious women, anyway... why give half your paycheck to a woman who'll only nag and complain at you the rest of your life when you could be escorted by anywhere from two to five girls at once, all loyal and trusting of you. (Yes, I half said that because Whiskey is the Marriage type, half because of my College Player ambition)

3) Other than the constant "I love you's", "Keep me forever's", and "You're just...special's" I got from her daily, I was most likely just another guy to her. The last person she was truly dedicated to was Hannah, seeing as they planned to elope to Sweden, get married, and live off the Government there.

4) I suppose I'm too selfless to agree with you on that point... I can't stand watching as a person slowly destroys themselves.

0) According to Hannah, Mishayla and Chelsey, my sex appeal is: My care for others, my readiness to help, the mystery about me, my looks, my personality, my sense of humor. In order from most appealing to least.

The Avatar I have now is a reminder of when my primary goal in life was to take Mishayla away from all the things that ailed her and to make her happy. Since I can't personally do that anymore, I figure a change of face will get things rolling. That, and it'd be nice to change things up for my umptenth return to the forums.

As for the Marijuana/Gay Marriage appeal: Pursuit of Happiness. It's in the constitution, so imo both should be legal. As for the current media trend, IDK.

Xer0 \^/

I'll simply say that a good, functioning marriage isn't going to have a nagging/complaining party of either gender.

I'll also say that being in a romantic and/or sexual relationship with 2+ women is going to be hard work, and mentally/emotionally draining. IMO, a single gal is just right, and quite frankly, more than enough.

So I was more-or-less correct; she simply has no desire to form lasting relationships with whoever she is romantically interested in at this point in her life.

The thing is, there's a point at which I would have been trying to avert such problems. But the the problem that you experience is that it becomes to physically, mentally, and emotionally draining to keep up with that, and everything else that you are interested in/matters to you.

There's a breaking point, or a point of no return, if you will. Once you reach it, you simply have to let them keep screwing up, because either they'll learn to not screw up, or they never will.

Obviously, then, we have entirely different "types" of women who are interested in either of us.

So it really bugs you then. If that's the case, then change it to whatever you want.

2) Then sir, there is no such thing as a "Good, functional marriage" in the real world.  And no, not really... if I was a craddlerobber I could probably be sleeping with two girls right now. Possibly four, if I tried really hard and got my liscence.

3) I agree, she's looking for someone to make her happy. However, she's not a whore. She just hasn't found the right person yet...

4) I don't plan on staying long enough for them to self-destruct... hopefully, I'll be overseas on or California by then.

0) Quite.

I"m thinking of the "What's Emo" one.

Xer0 \^/

Then we will simply have differing opinions.

WRT marriage, however, I took your comment to be one that indicated that, in the perspective of one or both parties of the marriage, the relationship consisted almost entirely of nagging/whining/complaining.

Not occasional disputes or complaints that come with normal interactions with other people.

Did I say she was a whore? No. Did I imply such? No. Does not want to form lasting relationships != whore.

So you don't care if they self-destruct, because you don't intend on being around to try to pick up the pieces, as you claim you are wont to do.

2) The thing with marriage is that... you're trapped with the other person forever. All romance and intimacy dies after the first two weeks.

3) Excuse my defensive stance for my beloved.

4) I plan to find someone to take care of them for me while I'm gone. I wouldn't abandon them....

Random Video Time!

Who is the antagonist, and who is the protagonist in the fight show in the AMV below?

The fighters are Ulquiorra Cifer                                                                                       

and Ichigo Kurosaki

Xer0 \^/

BS. My own parents, who have been married for some twenty years, are still perfectly happy and romantic. I'm certain that there are other examples out there.

And besides, is being trapped forever with the person you truly love a bad thing?

.......

*sigh* You don't get it.

At this point, in view of the decisions she makes, and the fact that you seem to have continual emotional problems with trying to help her, you should give up on her, and simply leave her to the consequences of her actions.

I cannot stress this enough; it is far more beneficial for your mental and emotional health that you do so.

Why do I care about it? Despite the fact that it is embedded for deliciousness, I'm simply not interested in AMVs.....of any kind, really.

First off, if you've married the right person, then you're not trapped, you're willingly there.

Furthermore, if it has all gone wrong and you both see that you aren't the best people out there for one another, you can get divorced, though of course other factors need to be kept in mind in this.

Ichigo is the protagonist. Not going to talk about the morality of the two characters involved though, because I've never seen the show.

Ichigo is a strange dude who desperately needs emotional counseling.

Ulquiorra is a jerk without a soul.

Bleach is stupidly simple, really.

The first divorce leads to a second one in 69% of cases.

Maybe you should go with the Hindu forced marriage thing. They have an extremely low divorce rate. Like 9% or something like that.

Or you should become a Mormon, they have an low divorce rates likewise.

Maybe because of the respect of the values of chastity in their thinking? ie you have to get married if you want to get laid.

Yeah, that's pretty much it.

I'm a Mormon, see?

Said respect of values of chastity is present in most other Protestant denominations.

As far as I've seen in places where Mormons are prominent, Mormonism is the societal norm. Meanwhile, for instance in England in a place with a higher-than-average concentration of Christians, Christian values would still most likely come in second place to "modernist" values.

The point I was getting across about marriage is that IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY. Note the period.  Love is not forever, because love does not exist. "Love" is merely a biochemical reaction created by the hormones of the mind to force a species that has evolved past the control of instinct to continue the species, because logically, having kids is the stupidest thing a person can ever do to themselves. Yes, I confess to being in love, however, I accept that the "love" I feel is a result of my hormones. Nothing more.

If people did things for themselves all the time, Whiskey, I'm afraid that the world would be stuck in caves still.

Anyway, the relevance of the AMV is to show that, despite the fact that Ulquiorra is the accepted antagonist of the fight, he isn't the greater evil of the two.  He isn't souless, btw, he's Nihilist.

Xer0 \^/

..............

You realize that I simply don't care about what you're saying here, because I think you're being an idiot right now.

lolwut?

Hey Whiskey great fan fic

oh and Komamura wins

Thank 'e.

I'm being an idiot for applying modern science and darwinism?

...

Right...

Xer0 \^/

marriage is a good thing