Quoting Mystikmind, reply 29Just look at what happened in Egypt or Libya and even Syria!Exactly, but I am willing to bet you know as much about those American campaigns as you do about Iraq or Afghanistan. I am not trying to be mean here ... you just do not have the correct information. For instance, if you are interested in Afghanistan, where do you go for your information? I go to people like Malalai Joya who is living through the American invasion (call it democracy if you like) and Noam Chomsky. I do not go to our media in any venue for what I would think are obvious reasons. So I use Igor’s internet almost exclusively. If you are interested in trying to understand what this ‘democratic and freedom thing’ is actually about and you have an hour and a half … watch this video about the benevolence we have spread around their country. Don’t ask the USG!!! You just cannot force democricy and freedom on a country ... through war???
Malalai Joya and Noam Chomsky at Harvard http://youtu.be/pcZhQLbvgEw
I'm sorry too because your coming across as looking like a crackpot with this post! because despite the limitations of world media, i am quite certain America did not invade Egypt, Iran or Libya!! And if your referring to western propaganda stiring things up, well i think that is quite insulting to the intelligence of the people fighting for their freedom in those countries. Afghanistan and Iraq do not fit in with what i was talking about at all, because obviously there is massive western interference in those two countries and massive amounts of propaganda and misinformation, which is obvious and insulting to my intelligence if you think i cannot see that!
Edit: i did wonder what will ever become of Iraq, then when they had their big soccer win i immediately realized their going to make it! It is a truely remarkable feet and is similarly inspiring as the movie 'Invictus' And here is a quote from an old news report "Despite our misery in Sadr City, we came out in the streets to celebrate the victory," said Ibrahim Karim, a 44-year-old engineer. "We are happy now because we have forgotten for a while our sad situation."
Just throw in a bit more stuff on 'Invictus'from wikipedia
While incarcerated on Robben Island prison, Nelson Mandela recited the poem to other prisoners and was empowered by its message of self mastery.
Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.
In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.
Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.