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Reply #2126 January 27, 2014 6:50:46 AM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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I feel like I knew the answer to this at one point, but does anyone know what you have to do to remove the cosmetic titans from the front end map (while keeping a randomly generated map there)? Appearently removing them from the GSD and entity manifest are not enough.

Goa, if you ever figure that out, you should post it so you can be elevated to God status...

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Reply #2127 January 27, 2014 9:55:44 AM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
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Goa, if you ever figure that out, you should post it so you can be elevated to God status...

Has anyone tried swapping out the cosmetic Titans' meshes with planet meshes? That probably would do the trick.

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Reply #2128 January 27, 2014 10:23:42 AM
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Quoting Lavo_2,
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Has anyone tried swapping out the cosmetic Titans' meshes with planet meshes? That probably would do the trick.

I just use the "rock" mesh. It's small and behind the main menu you can't see it.

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Reply #2129 January 28, 2014 1:40:49 PM
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Is there any way to stop ships from pushing each other around? The Xy`Kranasha keep taking their Worldeater for a trip across the abyss because it's well beyond the reform fleet range in size. The ship has 80k mass and ships with less than 1/10 of that will happily push it along without a care in the... *shades* world.

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Reply #2130 January 28, 2014 2:48:04 PM
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on a sidenote, what is the usefulness of those "cosmetic" entities of Titans?

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Reply #2131 January 28, 2014 3:49:01 PM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
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Quoting GoaFan77, reply 2123I feel like I knew the answer to this at one point, but does anyone know what you have to do to remove the cosmetic titans from the front end map (while keeping a randomly generated map there)? Appearently removing them from the GSD and entity manifest are not enough.

Goa, if you ever figure that out, you should post it so you can be elevated to God status...

I'm told only half jokingly I already have that status is some modding circles. 

 

Quoting Lavo_2,
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Quoting Seleuceia, reply 2126Goa, if you ever figure that out, you should post it so you can be elevated to God status...

Has anyone tried swapping out the cosmetic Titans' meshes with planet meshes? That probably would do the trick.

Problem is I think they have to spawn in planet gravity wells. Every planet being a binary system or more might look a bit weird.

Quoting rjhughes67,
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Quoting Lavo_2, reply 2127Has anyone tried swapping out the cosmetic Titans' meshes with planet meshes? That probably would do the trick.

I just use the "rock" mesh. It's small and behind the main menu you can't see it.

Might be a good alternative. I'll try removing all but one cosmetic titan and see if that works.

Quoting Dark_Ansem,
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on a sidenote, what is the usefulness of those "cosmetic" entities of Titans?

Only for showing off meshes in the main menu. In fact they're more annoying than useful IMO.

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Reply #2132 January 28, 2014 4:15:04 PM
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can we not simply delete them altogether?

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Reply #2133 January 28, 2014 4:49:03 PM
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Quoting Dark_Ansem,
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can we not simply delete them altogether?

Apparently the game crashes if you do. Unless you change the FrontEnd map to not have planets perhaps.

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Reply #2134 January 28, 2014 5:54:35 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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Unless you change the FrontEnd map to not have planets perhaps.

This works, can confirm from personal experience. Though imo it's better to put in a fake star entry, so you don't have anything in the background, as the FrontEnd will never zoom in on a star, just shows off the star's icon for whatever reason.

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Reply #2135 January 28, 2014 6:02:24 PM
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Nah man, that's what the Pulsar is for...

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Reply #2136 January 28, 2014 6:41:06 PM
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Does anyone have any insight whatsoever into why XSI tangents will only take my original UV map, not the new one I made for them? No matter how many times I delete the tangents and projection and try again, I get "Invalid procedure call or argument "Get Value"". I used to get this to work if I was stubborn enough but I must have made 10 tries now on several different models.

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Reply #2137 January 28, 2014 7:16:50 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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Does anyone have any insight whatsoever into why XSI tangents will only take my original UV map, not the new one I made for them? No matter how many times I delete the tangents and projection and try again, I get "Invalid procedure call or argument "Get Value"". I used to get this to work if I was stubborn enough but I must have made 10 tries now on several different models.

 

I've had that happen to me before, it was infuriating. The only way I could fix it was to delete all the tangent info, save the model as xsi and then close softimage and reopen the model.

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Reply #2138 January 28, 2014 9:59:47 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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Does anyone have any insight whatsoever into why XSI tangents will only take my original UV map, not the new one I made for them? No matter how many times I delete the tangents and projection and try again, I get "Invalid procedure call or argument "Get Value"". I used to get this to work if I was stubborn enough but I must have made 10 tries now on several different models.

 

Did you try pointing the tangents to the UV's?


Render > Property > Tangent

 

Pick

 

Selection (selecting the mesh with the UV) > Clusters > Tex coordinates > ...

 

I never have to make UV's for my tangents, they use my standard UV's and work out of the box with extremely rare oddities. So I don't know if that will work for you.

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Reply #2139 January 28, 2014 10:31:49 PM
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Quoting IskatuMesk,
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Quoting GoaFan77, reply 2136
Does anyone have any insight whatsoever into why XSI tangents will only take my original UV map, not the new one I made for them? No matter how many times I delete the tangents and projection and try again, I get "Invalid procedure call or argument "Get Value"". I used to get this to work if I was stubborn enough but I must have made 10 tries now on several different models.

 

Did you try pointing the tangents to the UV's?


Render > Property > Tangent

 

Pick

 

Selection (selecting the mesh with the UV) > Clusters > Tex coordinates > ...

 

I never have to make UV's for my tangents, they use my standard UV's and work out of the box with extremely rare oddities. So I don't know if that will work for you.

Yes, that is the problems. A lot of time XSI refuses to work with any tangent map I make besides the one the textures use.

Yes sometimes you get lucky and the standard texture UV map doesn't produce oddities. With the models I use that's maybe 1/3 of the time. The rest usually need a different tangent map.

Quoting Wintercross,
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Quoting GoaFan77, reply 2136
Does anyone have any insight whatsoever into why XSI tangents will only take my original UV map, not the new one I made for them? No matter how many times I delete the tangents and projection and try again, I get "Invalid procedure call or argument "Get Value"". I used to get this to work if I was stubborn enough but I must have made 10 tries now on several different models.

 

I've had that happen to me before, it was infuriating. The only way I could fix it was to delete all the tangent info, save the model as xsi and then close softimage and reopen the model.

Hmm, maybe it has something to do with the fact I usually import .obj. I guess I'll try saving in XSI and reloading next time.

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Reply #2140 January 29, 2014 12:17:26 AM
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Well, currently I haven't been able to click in XSI's viewports without causing it to crash. That's a problem I've had for the better half of last year. Before that, I had a problem where if I didn't restart after a while, entering the texture menu in XSI would give a strange nondescript error that locked out the entire program's UI. Neither issue yielded any search results. XSI is second only to Particle Forge in strange behavior, the latter of which regularly corrupts its own memory and settings. That's why you get memory errors trying to open particles randomly. It's not the particles at all.

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Reply #2141 January 29, 2014 2:09:56 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
reply 2139
Hmm, maybe it has something to do with the fact I usually import .obj. I guess I'll try saving in XSI and reloading next time.

This is a problem with some *.obj files. Exporting the model to XSI or LWO and re-importing will work around this issue.

 

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Reply #2142 February 4, 2014 12:25:29 PM
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Need some help with an ability I'm creating.  Is there any way for an ability to play a dialogue sound (vs an effect sound)?.  I can get it to play the sound when set as effect/is3D TRUE but the volume is very low and the/a ship must be selected to hear it at all.  If I change it to a dialogue sound in soundeffects and/or sounddialogue it doesn't play at all.  

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Reply #2143 February 4, 2014 12:34:57 PM
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Ok I have posted this in a different post else where but I think I can get answers here. I am working on making the militias more diverese and not all TEC so here is what I have using WOEaintME's mod. I run it on dev and the game crashes. here is a link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9fg6ptqphtv69nl/iq2SByagK6

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Reply #2144 February 4, 2014 2:39:28 PM
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Hello Guys!

Can you guys tell me, that is there a way to convert the ship models used in the Sword Of The Stars 2 in order to be usable in Sins Rebellion?

Thanks guys for any answer i will get! 

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Reply #2145 February 4, 2014 3:02:41 PM
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Quoting lordcronos,
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Hello Guys!

Can you guys tell me, that is there a way to convert the ship models used in the Sword Of The Stars 2 in order to be usable in Sins Rebellion?

Thanks guys for any answer i will get! 

You'd be better of asking the SotS2 community. But like any game you first need to convert their models into a more useable format used by major modeling software, such as .obj, .3ds, or .xsi. We can't really help you until you get that far.

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Reply #2146 February 4, 2014 3:13:07 PM
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SotS 2 models are stored by the game in a special format that's processed by dev tools at Kerberos, and there's currently no way to extract them, modify them, or re-pack them without Kerberos' dev tools, so he's plain out of luck.

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Reply #2147 February 4, 2014 4:23:54 PM
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Thanks for confirming my suspicion SpardaSon21, i had a feeling that this is the case with SotS 2 assets but i was hoping that i am wrong about it.

Thanks for your answers guys!

It would have been so great to use those assets so many great models, like the stations are just amazing not to mention the dozens of beautiful ships. Grrrr.....

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Reply #2148 February 4, 2014 6:34:56 PM
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Quoting AceXMachine,
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Need some help with an ability I'm creating.  Is there any way for an ability to play a dialogue sound (vs an effect sound)?.  I can get it to play the sound when set as effect/is3D TRUE but the volume is very low and the/a ship must be selected to hear it at all.  If I change it to a dialogue sound in soundeffects and/or sounddialogue it doesn't play at all.  

 

Any ideas?

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Reply #2149 February 4, 2014 9:20:33 PM
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You could make the other 2 values (threshold and minAttuenuationDist) really big...that might work...

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Reply #2150 February 4, 2014 10:17:19 PM
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Quoting Seleuceia,
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You could make the other 2 values (threshold and minAttuenuationDist) really big...that might work...

I tried that but while i could notice it go down further if those numbers were low i didn't notice a huge impact with a big number.  How big can that number go?  I went up to 100000, reloaded the dev exe and still had trouble hearing it but its not too bad.  I was just wondering if there was a better way

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