Crazy is believing you are in Iraq spreading Demoncracy. Crazy is swallowing the lies of your government, hook, line and sinker when they are proven to have lied over and over and over. Crazy is swallowing the desensitization of believing Iran is the next threat so you can easily see where your troops will be going next from your new PERMANENT bases in Iraq.

A history lesson for Dummies

Empire - Iran: Influence or Threat

and everyone thought the world waited to long to remove Hitler.

 

 

 

Hardly, but it does demonstrate the imperialistic West for sure. Haven't done much research on Grenada, but I know enough to know they were no threat to us, their neighbors or the world ... justified how? Heartbrake Ridge, go Clint, hehehe.

Why??? There is no correct answer to this question asked in this manner as this could not take place in an instant ... because the process took Millennia to achieve, by Nature. But this is a good example of how people are prone to mentally wander and is why we can achieve very little politically. If you let the suppositions slip by without questioning them, then you have just been propagandized and confusion will be the result.

If you just somehow believe that we were just to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, I would have to ask why? Most JU’s seem content without an answer … I am not, not without the suppositions explained.

Great source of info. At some point I will have to go into Iran (hopefully before they are invaded) and especially the Shaw ... but I do not think many JU moon bats will have anything different to say about that atrocity either … hook, line, sinker and the whole pole. I’ll bet most have no idea why I am stating this, hehehe.

Fact – The drug production in Afghanistan has increased by 4,400% since the USG brought democracy and freedom there, hum!

Hey Myfist0  whats really scary about that caller is that the caller is probably (still) clueless about all the gaps in logic he stated in an amazingly short period of time.  Zombies do walk among us, and have learned how to use phones.  If only universal kindness were as efficient.  

This is what happens when we go to the voting booths ...

Where's my bunker buster round? cause... it seems... that's what's BT opinion seems to be made out of... lol kidding now. ugh... I need some sleep... @_@

Why you couldn't even change your own mind with such shattering intelligence and knowledge… and you are somehow supposed to change my opinions … how, is there no end to the braggadocio?

There is plenty to criticize about any government--certainly the US is a big target for that.  Having said that though, the idea that a cabal of all-powerful, arch-evil, government savants is secretly organized to strip all men of their freedom and secretly control their minds like play things is a bit of a stretch.  I could accuse the makers of Coca-Cola of doing the same thing.

Individuals do individually selfish/ambitious things and when you get a group of like-minded individuals together who share negative e traits, the temptation to bend the rules is strong with that sort.  That's not a "government conspiracy"--it's a group of corrupt individuals who eventually get outed or caught because sooner or later the people who won't go along with them find out.

As dumb as politicians are, how many do you really believe are capable of being "Illuminati" and prepped to enslave mankind?  They have a hard enough time functioning on a basic level. The more power an individual or group has, the greater the possible magnitude of their errors. So comparing the US government to Hitler is a stretch.

If you want that sort of example, look to people like..Hitler.  Or how about Mao Tse Tung or Joseph Stalin who killed more than Hitler's government did during the entire war?  Look to Assad Jr. and Sr. or at what Vladimir Putin did before Russia was "gentrified".  Read about Sadaam  or a lot of these other "poor victim" countries.

The US is just a big fat juicy target for criticism but there are a lot bigger targets to be found for real absolute condemnation and contempt.

I'm not endorsing what we are doing--I'd like to see it change and could critique too--and I do by writing and speaking to congressmen and those I know.  This pure unreasoning hatred of one's on government is a separate problem all of its own.  Go watch Mad Max and see what sort of life you'll have with "freedom".

 

 

Of course there is a cost to war, you think I don't know that? When narrow-minded people like Michael Moore use a microscope and a projector to present an argument, I won't give the argument much merit because it isn't a camera that is taking a look at the big picture, sorry.

Great clip ... sort of says it all. There is a lot of other support for this ideology (Kennedy, Nixon, Kissinger and many others). I would think it obvious to the most casual of observers with just a quick look around the world, but that’s just me. Great … Bibleberger meatings, Lula is going to just love that one, hehehe

Sadly, none of the targets for our Ire are alive and functional but one … the USG. How is it that the world is at fault whenever the USG tells us it is? And why is it oftentimes that the USG uses death and destruction to promote their version of freedom and democracy to the ignorant of the world who aren’t even smart enough to know we are helping them to understand the rules.

I have extensively looked into many of these things and that is why I can tell you that Hitler did nothing that the USG hasn’t  already done … but to what purpose? I can make a list showing you exactly the things that Hitler did and their equivalent for the USG today … but to what purpose? Because you cannot grasp the fact that the USG lies, cheats and steals from the people (to put it mildly) … you will refuse to believe whatever is before your eyes and you will dismiss it out of hand. That lends to a whole new dimension in … blind faith.

And there is not one filthy rich stupid and bumbling career politician in DC getting filthier as we speak  that gives a damn how you or I feel about anything especially something as mundane as their competency.

Exactly right ... is that not what we are trying to do??? The conspiracy is not from the voices of the concerned who would present evidence and seek answers, the conspiracy (look it up) is in the USG's refusal to present even a basically viable rendition of the events. They have all the films and tapes, all the records and pertinent data and all the forensic evidence (most of which they immediately destroyed) and they have all the classified information. With all this in their hands … the best they could come up with is … what they sold us??? 

What ... are you trying to tell me that the USG got to Mad Max too, well don't that beat all, hehehe.

I am well aware of individuals like Rockefeller who believed the elite--like himself--were the only ones fit to decide for others how they should live...and it is of course, for their own good.

Margaret Sanger who was concerned for women's health and freedom also promoted eugenics and forced sterilization of the mentally disabled and generationally and chronically poor--all as a "progressive" agenda for "their own good".

Stalin starved ten million Ukrainians to death while they lived in one of the worlds largest grain exporting countries, for the good of those people  Mao-Tse Tung was responsible for the deaths of as many as sixty-million in his march to "help the working man".

The French Revolutionary council rounded up people in the street suspected of having 'wrong ideas" and tortured and executed them with amusement and disdain while crowds clapped and cheered--all in the name of Liberte' for the common people.

You can add to the list--it goes back to the earliest times of history in every nation. The examples I give above though happened mostly in contemporary times and were headed by progressive "intellectuals".  They didn't occur in a feudal society in the dark ages or in days when burned sacrifices were offered at hill top shrines.

What they all have in common is they were led by people who used hate and the appearance of seeking individual freedom and justice to further plans to deprive people of their liberty and even their lives in order that they could make people do what they wanted them to do.

By virtue of the government we have, its ability to wrongly wield power is directly proportionate to the extent the people within it allow it to do so.  Sadly that means that when we are an uniformed, selfish and ignorant populace we get a government that is representative of that.  "We" are the government (here in the US).

What astounds me is the thinking that new party bosses or mullahs or Napoleons will "make it right" if we only tear down existing society and its structure and ideals.  It's the same song that's been on the radio since governments began.

“Government is an evil; it is only the thoughtlessness and vices of men that make it a necessary evil. When all men are good and wise, government will of itself decay.” --Percy Shelle, poet.

“It is necessary for him who lays out a state and arranges laws for it to presuppose that all men are evil and that they are always going to act according to the wickedness of their spirits whenever they have free scope” --Niccolo Machiavelli

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." -- Sir Winston Churchill

I'll close with a quotes from the Old Testament and Churchill:

And he said, “This will be the procedure of the king who will reign over you: he will take your sons and place them for himself in his chariots and among his horsemen and they will run before his chariots.  “And he will appoint for himself commanders of thousands and of fifties, and some to do his plowing and to reap his harvest and to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.  “He will also take your daughters for perfumers and cooks and bakers.  “And he will take the best of your fields and your vineyards and your olive groves, and give them to his servants. “And he will take a tenth of your seed and of your vineyards, and give to his officers and to his servants.  “He will also take your male servants and your female servants and your best young men and your donkeys, and use them for his work.  “He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his servants.  “Then you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day”

What's intersting is that up to that point Israel had prophets who instructed the people to be moral and corrected them when they erred--with the onus being on the individual to then be responsible for his or her own behavior and its consequences.Instead, the people wanted "someone else" to "do it for them".

Regardless of how you feel about the book, the point is valid.  People clump together and look for a "savior like them" to whom they can give absolute power in order to make people by force do what they want.  That's evil.

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."  --Sir Winston Churchill (who 25% of Britain's polled think is a fictional character)