Well I don't know about needing to send anyone there. But whichever nation colonizes a planet first is definetly going to have sway over the world. Its more of a Pen is blah blah blah sword etc etc. 

But to go in depth more about why we should colonize is simply, resources, imagine what we could find on Mars. Oil, uranium, perhaps even a new means of power that exceeds Nuclear. Its more of an opportunity cost, not to mention tourism of course.

There is no such thing as matter...it's just a different form of energy.

Interesting on the quantum tunneling idea.  That would be something if its true.  So now we can have teleporters they just have to be grounded.

They had some similar results with light inside glass and with mirrors back a few years ago.  A lot of ambiguos and not certain things and others were explained--but those experiments also indicated the speed of light could be altered in a medium.

I'll be interested to hear the smart math guys explain it.

On the other hand, that can be quite the motivation for wanting to 'get away from it all'. Not touching UFO's with a 10ft anal probe. Mostly because I don't care for the anal probe.

I spoke with someone who is taking quantum physics at his college. He says that my idea is an interesting possibility and has merit. I guess the likelyhood that a particle will tunnel is inversely proportional to it's mass, and neutrinos are well known to be very, very light (this mass-tunneling relationship I didnt know, it's just something that fits). The other thing I thought about after I posted my idea is that I bet the previous neutrino speed measurements were based off solar neutrinos, and therefore would not have picked up anything anywhere near the new result. Ah, well time will tell.

Yeah, theres quite a bit of tech that could come out of this find, if it proves true. Going with my analysis (because, frankly, it makes the most sense), we could have faster-than-lightening speed internet and communication. Everything so far has been moving to wireless in the air, it looks like we could eventually go with wireless in the ground. I would bet theres alot less interference with neutrinos as well. Eventually, yes teleporting over the surface of the earth might be possible (depends on getting computers to handle all the computation and dealing with decoherance). The main obstacle to all this happening (once again, assuming this is legit), would be the efficiency of the signal output and the signal loss. Neutrinos rarely interact with matter, so how many do you have to send to get the transmission to where you need it to go? How many neutrinos get absorbed in the environment on the way? Is it worth all this effort? If I'm wrong and the find proves true, theres numerous other possibilities (can't say for certain without more knowledge of the physics involved), but they all face the neutrino-interaction problem.

As for the results with light.... I'm not sure if its the same situation, but the idea behind meta materials is that they have a negative index of refraction. The way you generally think about refraction is that the material 'slows down' light as it enters a material with a positive index, bending it's path through the material. Negative indices therefore imply that light is 'speeding up' as it meets the surface of the material. While there was some possibility that might be happening when this metamaterial business began, I believe they found that light is not actually speed up (probably similar to the fact that light never 'slows down' in a material, it is simply absorbed by the material and re-emitted a short time latter). I could look around and find this result if thats what you were talking about.

The other possibiliy that you are referring to is that all particles can, and often do, break the light barrier... on the very, very tiny scale, when looking at the situation from a certain perspective. A particle, when it travels from point A to point B, takes every possible path to there simultaneously. It is these possible paths that can break the light barrier, but must contribute a small about to probability of finding the particle along this path. The possible paths average out to be the straight line we expect it to be.

Life Long Slave on Mars?

Where do I sign?

Presuming of course I get to share living quarters with the supermodel facility managers

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Meh I've always had this vision(dream) of going to mars just to start over with followers of the same belief as me. Tolerance and open mindedness. Earth is a cesspool of intolerance and intoxication where we don't take care of even ourselves.

Don't worry, when I do it we'll come back and have psychic powers and white eyes. So badass.

I really have no idea how I could explain it to you, but generally just think of it like a world without hate or judging based on how you are.

I would think that creating a religion based around the Universal Will To Become would get us there about as soon as research into these technologies. It may take us a million years, but then we can go anywhere instantly. At the very least it's a good plan B. 

And I would give us 500 years before we get any useful interstellar travel. That is a generous estimate forgoing any solar wide wars. The other half of exploration is exploitation. If we can't get the resources back to Sol III (Earth for now), what the hell is the point?