Pre-ordered!!!

You know why I did this even without a good amount of information I usually want before making a purchase? let's investigate.

I bought sins because I like things in space, be it wars, treks, or balls. For several games I was enthralled with all the ships and worlds and epic zoomability that was soo new to me. Then after the initial shine wore off, I started to see holes. The game became a rush from world to world as the defensibility of these worlds was sad, so sad that I put the game down for a lengthy amount of time.

Then Entrenchment came out. By the gods, the developers identified the biggest hole in the game and fixed it. Wow, this game is playable again. So I begin anew; "look at these giant fortresses, kicking ass in outer space is finally less of a pain. Wait, what's this mission stuff that keeps popping up, it's so retarded, 15 minutes to go deep into enemy territory and kill civilian structures so you like me a tiny bit more? Screw it, locked teams, issue resolved, back to ruling the universe all by my lonesome, didn't need anyone anyway."

Then diplomacy came out. Instantly bought, not waiting like last time, I think the developers are on a roll...."Mmmm..... nice try ironclad, I like the effort, the changes made were not cosmetic, you guys really did try to overhaul the whole system, but I'm gonna stick to locked teams...maybe I was too quick in buying..."

Again the shine wore off and I thought, "Any developer in there right mind would have put this game down and focused on a sequel" But no, Sins developers kept pumping out updates, fixing this and fixing that. EVEN getting the AI to finally build superweapons! Something I thought would never happen! Why do they care so much?

The point is, even if Rebellion comes out shit they won't give up on it because they have what many other game makers don't, Commitment to the fans. When I pay for a simple fix to a game that I could technically use to buy a whole other new game for, I realize I am paying for a game that has a group of people behind it tinkering away waaaaaay after it has come out and all that's left is a few true lovers of the genre.

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Well, in the FAQ it states that all content before rebellion will be included (Wewt) and much more, but yeah, could use some more Info to what is coming.

Also, it being standalone and "full", there has to be some awesome futures worth pre-ordering for, so I'm going to take my chances and say that SD Made the expansion worth its price. (*Crosses fingers*)

Considering all the hours I play Sins, the discount price of $30 (it cost me £18) seems quite cheap.

What I meant is that in the way it was done before, customers were given something before being asked for money.
This is not even about the money ; -30/40$- is definitely not much. It is a matter of principle, I guess.

But I will clearly buy this game if it is as good as the previous ones.
I just think it is not correct to ask for a payment for something that we have no real information about. When I order a car, I know what it will be, so I know what I pay for.

Anyway, I will not annoy people any longer. I just wanted to say that, because I believe this is what many players think, and it would be a shame to let this be between us and Sins

Dont make me turn this ship around

If I could use PayPal to pre-order, I would probably do it, but by the time I will be able to, during the beta, the discount will be over, which defeats the purpose of pre-ordering in the first place.

I don't know if I'll be able to bring myself to do it in the next couple days before the discount ends.  The player counts for people who play real Sins games (online multiplayer PvP) are so low that I don't think I'd want to shell out $30 for it.  For me to want to purchase it, it's going to need to bring hundreds of new people online, which means that Rebellion needs to sell to a new crowd of people who never played any of the earlier Sins games and who support online multiplayer PvP.

I'll probably break down and order it in a couple days, but I'll feel like I'm taking a huge gamble.

Please remind me what else beside bigger ships and rebel factions.  I haven't read anything regarding game play and how rebel factions work in the general game play.  I don't have enough information to pre-order.  Also, Impulse is now Gamestop product and I don't use Impulse anymore.  Can I get update without Impulse?

i bought main game and all other in impulse - cant register the serial numbers to get discount ;/ 

For sales/ordering issues please e-mail sales@stardock.com and they will get you sorted.

Short List of New Rebellion Features:

• 12 all new ships
• 2 new structures
• 6 new tech trees
• 6 new factions (subfactions of the original 3)
• New victory conditions (including updated Diplomatic Victory condition)
• New scenario maps
• Updated capital ship balance and level 4 abilities for each
• Improved AI
• Updated Galaxy Forge w/trigger system for more interesting map designs
• Updated graphics w/shadows, in-game anisotropic filtering, many new updated particle fx, skyboxes and more
• Plus a bunch of other stuff

On top of everything that's already been added to the game, much of which is also being tweaked in some fashion.

Yarlen, is Impulse Reactor still a go as the replacement for ICO?  If so, will the beta be using that platform or the ICO platform?

What, I haven't heard about any new structures before, I wonder what those will be.