Well props to them, considering I've yet to figure out how the z-axis move key words even after reassigning it.

Agreed completely. I've never encountered 2face (or anyone else) doing that, but manual Z-axis control serves absolutely no sensible purpose except for unfair tactical exploits.

It would be enough to just remove the Z-axis command.

We all consedered it illegal. Noone use it exept you.

Its exploit beacuse ( i think it was tec) SB cant shoot up. That way u can kill it without loses.

Also u can avoid mine fields and PJs that way. It wasnt ment to be that way. So stop arguing or u will get perma bann ticket from all mp games

As much as sins is a 3d game, it always seemed to me that using the Z-axis was out of place. I mean sure it's cool to have a 3D space battle in a sphere shaped grav well, but whenever I see someone using the Z-axis it reminds me of something that's kind of exploitof/glitchy/unfinished.

And to all you *anti*-multiplayer people that have been posting lately; true there aren't many of us, whether that's because early issues with the game, or because certain members of the community act as though new members are a bad thing; it's hard to tell, but both certainly play a roll. Regardless as Sanchez said multiplayer players are more likely to be attuned to minor game imbalances in a way most singleplayer players would never notice, as such should we strive to inform the devs of these issues or put up with them indefinitely? while occasionally people do a-bit too well making their opinions known, it's much easier to fix something when you know there is a problem.

lol Qu4r, i'm not here to ban any one from playing this game. i thought you was a cool person considering talking to you in teamspeak with your accent but now your threatening me on being ban for using z-axis. lets make it fair and play how you like to play the game and i'll play my way. you don't have to tell me how to play the game man, i've been playing and using z-axis since before sins 1.0 came out LOL!

please stop the threats of banning people from playing mp. your not setting a good example of the people reading this forum who maybe would like to play mp. i'm not going to argue with you banning me on mp but i will not complain either if the devs decide to remove the button. theirs a reason why z-axis is in the key bindings and it's called "optional". let me explain it plainly, "optional" means you either use it or you don't its your choice and its your option!

LOL.  Z-axis is not an exploit.  If you see someone using it, then you better start using it.  If it were a real exploit, the devs would have never put it in the game.

Wouldn't the ideal solution be to make starbases able to fire up/down? I mean mine fields are still an issue, but no player in their right mind should use them online.

[quote who="CilverBUG™" reply="14" id="3023988"]btw Nightraid3r, what does Howthe always say in his hosted games again? oh yeah! he says GET IN YOUR MAIN! boot! lol[/quote]

I was thinking, and I came to the conclusion that you could not have made less sense if you tried.  How does this relate to anything that I said.  You're basically vomiting garbage out of the deepest parts of your anal core whenever you post on these forums.  I wouldn't waste your limited brainpower trying to outwit me, its just not done.

Nightraider--is manic depressive?

The Dev's answered this question during beta testing and early patches.  I'm not going to try to search for it, but this problem was identified and the Dev's said Z-axis is here for keeps.

I agree with Mecha and Quar.  Intentional use of the Z-axis should be regarded as cheating IMHO.  This game was really designed and intended to be played in the XY plane.

tell me your name and tell me when the last time i played with you. it seems to me that your one of those guys who cry like a #$%^ when no feed comes your way to save your sorry behind. you probably spend more time on this forum than playing the game. if you played with me before then you wouldn't have been surprised about me knowing how to use z axis movement because everyone who i play with online knows that i use z axis. i used z axis against greg300007 mine tactics, boomerang also started crying about me using it because he had pji up and he couldn't do much about trapping my fleet.

don't hate me for using it, hate who ever decided to put z-axis as part of the game. because its in the game and i'm making use of it does not mean you have to blame me for it so live with it. you throw tantrum worst than my ex girlfriend. all i have to say is STFU and eat it til its done!

The issue is by using the Z-axis in certain situations you get a huge advantage--parking the Sova on top of a HW, the Orkulus on top of a star base, flying over or under mine fields, etc., etc.

Using the Z-axis to counter this is impractical...if you move a starbase up or down it can still be out-positioned, you can't spread enough mines to cover effectively and there's impractical to really place significant defenses on top of a planet because they take away from the need in the rest of the gravity well.

Having a Z-axis in the game is very helpful and prevents some awkward collision issues with the models but having access to a Z-axis movement control is something we can do without.  A lot of things in the game seem to really have not been designed with this in mind.