re: in house games yesterday.
In general notes:
- cellone was kinda erratic. In game #1 he had a ton of really clutch bindings + shields + good farm (though Morg beats Ryze). Game #2 he just kinda farmed mid lane all game, pushed to tower, farmed wraiths, went oom, recall, "waste" TP to go back mid.
Although Lux + Anivia is a pretty stale farm lane, Lux has a bit more roam potential with laser, esp when she has TP.
- it's hard to balance teams when people pick characters they don't play much/at all (Gotnades plays Zed, Pacov plays Ryze) out of choice rather than because of strategic bans.
- in retrospect, the teams may have been a little stacked (if we consider Brad and Thunder golds because they were gold last season, the winning team had 5 golds each time, while the losing team only had 3 - while i don't consider gold to be everything, there is one particular silver player in the group of 10 that is a little below the rest of us. Additionally, even though Karl is a great jungler who absorbs a lot of bans, jungle is his only 'real' role besides Taric/Chogath).
i don't think that game was 100% a problem with team comp.
If you had decided to use Malphite, you would have had nothing to kill the Kog (Morg shield shuts down Ryze). Trist is obviously pretty awesome end game too, but she still isn't a Kog. The bigger part of it was more that our comp countered yours:
Lulu v Warwick
Morgana v Ryze
Keep in mind that Malphite is also a really shitty laner now, and that you would have drawn (at best) top lane. Although Zed fed in teamfights, he did really well in lane and ended up 30 CS ahead of Darius despite losing the game. Not to mention WW + Malphite isn't really enough damage to kill people top lane ganks, you can't gank Morg, which left only one gankable lane (bot).
Finally, even though Morgana bindings&flashult + Trundle pillar is far from the best inititiaion, it was mostly just a matter of waiting until Morg hit a binding then going all in. Malphite counterinitiating a binding on a carry would have resulted in Malphite having to ult only 2/3 people and briefly be 1v5. We didn't spend much of that game sieging, so it's hard to value a flash + ult.
Problem that game was Gotnades afk farming bot lane, and Lux afk farming mid lane with ult + TP on CD, while Jayce took tower early and tried to roam until he fell behind.
Purple team had an awesome poke comp (Lux + Jayce + Nasus + MF + Sona is a redic poke comp), but refused to group. Although we did have hard engage with Naut and Anivia wall + Anivia R to stall i think it would have been better to group and force objectives rather than farm.
tl;dr Gotnades didn't play that great in either game, Cellone was inconsistent, people probably shouldn't play silly champs