Hello myfist0 long time no see. I do not expect much in the way of responses here from the flock anyway although, if they were actually serious, I would think they would try to find the truth instead of pretending they already know it. And all the while they are trying to obfuscate the actual research and the sciences. “All you have to do is believe” … sounds like a line out of “Peter Pan”, hehehe.

Don't get me started  .

Have you read Watership Down or seen Donny Darko or been raised watching a cross dressing rabbit?

I had a pet rabbit that would beat up my 25 pound cat and that cat scared big dogs.

EDIT: Just haven't been on Joe User. The Movies thread is cross linked with my game forum so I see these. If Boobz or Elana see a topic worth me jumping into feel free to P.M. me. 

But of course it is science.   Intelligent design must exist because as John Calvert put it "because it all looks designed".

Pretty sad answer coming from a lawyer. No wonder he made a career out if it. With answers like that I certainly wouldn't hire him to defend me in court. With those kind of answers the only people that will provide him an income are people who accept simple answers to complex questions.

It's simply another way the political machine uses something to influence  people into voting a certain way that may actually be against their own interests. What is funny is that Bush pushed the idea while campaigning and then appointed the Judge that ruled against it in the court case in Pa. Actions speak louder than words. When will these people figure out that they are being exploited. Obviously not this time around. Looks like they think Gingrich is a changed man because he says so, yet they ignore his actions which prove otherwise. Very sad state of affairs I would say. Although rather humorous at times!

Does the same kind of crap go on in Canada myfist0? I suspect the politicians spin everything but do they go to the extent that some people go to here to gain political power? Do they exploit religion there as much as they do here in the States? Do you find this kind of thing better comedy than Red Green?

So the only unanswered question is whether that is better or worse than what we have...the politicians hands all over the corporations ball bags? 

No question about it...The Tea Party started because of some of that also. Its roots are in the libertarian party but were immediately taken over by big monied interests. They are trying to do things from within the system and I am guessing they will fail. The people who they got elected will either jump on the bandwagon or get thrown out of congress because if they don't get in line the monied interests will make sure they don't get reelected. Wait and see. That is probably why OWS does not jump on the Democratic bandwagon. They already know that would more than likely fail as well.

The Wedge, a fund raising document from the Center for Science and Culture that set forth the group's (IDC) "Governing Goals":

* To defeat scientific materialism and its destructive moral, cultural and political legacies.

* To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.

What other scientific FIELD has been attacked with such fervor by the theologians? If science is bad … why isn’t all of it under attack then? There doesn’t seem to be a conflict in medicine, computers and technology, mathematics or physics, astrology or astronomy. Our engineering skills are not questioned nor is our prowess in archeology or geology (except for carbon dating). Where is the all-out attack on that nasty bug we call science … it doesn’t exist? I don’t know why anyone would seek a priest or a church for a better understanding of science???

myfist0 hahaha ... best short answer I have heard in a while, accolades! It is so difficult … no impossible to talk to the hypocritical and hateful ‘Happy People’. I guess in all that bliss the truth is bound to become unimportant hehehe.

I suppose most power struggles eventually brake down to $$$'s in the end analysis. But my interests here for the most part, are the hopes of keeping any of this theological nonsense out of the public school system. This is probably the only corruption left that hasn’t been experimented on with on our children. God (just kidding) please spare them this additional handicap as they seem to be learning little enough now that is practical.

For the record, the USA calls itself a Republic.  Its the poorly educated masses that call it a democracy.  What's sad is when the pledge of allegiance was said in school every morning, this fact was never mistaken.  "I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."  That whole separation of church and state issue has changed things and the pledge is never uttered anymore.  And people wonder why patriotism is in the toilets.

Republic applies to the State or Nation itself while Democracy implies a mood of fairness, classlessness, consensus and egalitarianism … all the things we have bastardized for ourselves and desire to do the same for everyone else.

I don't think the absence of 'the Pledge ..." or "a prayer" can compete with all the other 'competition' (Nintendo, Sony etc.) ... they don’t even makes a dent in the child’s education. It is the "system"!

PS: You were right about prayer in school myfist0!!! I have been on a tangent ... but I am back now.