Advent and Vassari Titan "Ships"

O boy, you are gonna cop it.

Frankly i like what has been shown rendered (the one Vasari and Advent titans) both match the styles of their race. Vasari, insectoid looks like a flat spider to be honest, and for the advent it looks like a bigger Revelation.

If you don't like them dont play them is all i gotta say

EDIT: man i should have read more of the forums before i shot my mouth off, but the point remains the same. they match the styles

The manta vasari looks badass, the one i called a spider looks more like an octapus, plus the 2 advent titans could have been made of the same blueprints except one it 'expanded' and the other is 'contracted'

I'm right there with you on the Advent titans, hate the look of both of them... When I think Advent, I'm thinking Radiance Battleship, sleek and deadly. A look neither titan comes anywhere close to.

For the Vasari... I don't know, I think they looks pretty awesome, and the general shape of the design I have no objections to, but the organic look they seem to have going just seems wrong. The style more or less fits them, but the organic looking textures seems nothing at all like the generally "shiny" high tech looking Vasari warships.

you really haven't looked at the vasari closely then, all there ships have an organic look to them, some more then others granted, but half of them have a carapace style hull, complete with jagered edges, look alot like insects

And you clearly didn't look very closely at my post, or I worded it poorly, either way. I specifically talked about the textures, not the design style. The style is fine, but while many Vasari ships have an organic style to them, they still look technological in nature, while the Titans retain the organic style, but lose the high tech look. They have the appearance of organic ships that were grown rather than built, which is something that other Vasari ships do not have.

They follow the style, but as far as the more "organic" look to the ships you have to think about "when" they were designed as well. For the Vasari they have been using the same designs for 10,000 years while they were on the run from "the ultimate evil", or whatever. The titan, and their new caps, and vettes are the first new designs that they had to build in a long time. To deal with a faction they are in a military stalemate with which is TEC. Same for the Advent. Perhaps what they joined the battle with didnt cut it. Hence new designs with a more organic look to them.

In space it doesn't matter what shape the ships are. TEC follows that to a tee with its flying "Metal Bawkses".

I don't know, I kind of like the advent ones. Advent wasalways my favourite faction (underdog FTW!) and I especially like the revelation 2.0! The butterfly is less cool but still fits their style. Never did like the Vasari tbh. The voices/ship design always annoyed me so I can't really comment on them too much. Style for them seems to be relatively similar, not my taste though. I didn't look closely at the textures of the Vasari, but I don't think they were too off. Vasari never seemed shiny to me in the first place.

Agreed, the Advent Titans look bleh in regards to "fear-factor." Sure they look Advent, but they look more like buildings rather than ships.  Vasari, I'm okay with.  TEC are probably the sexiest titans thusfar.

EDIT:  I would like to see rotating turrets on, um, everything.  Homeworld (2) had it and that is at least a decade old.

I digress, the only images of them i've seen have been dark, so maybe we havent gotten a proper view.

but we both agree, the style fits, but the texture looks off

This is beta. things can change from now until final release.

Still doesn't fit with the point I was making. And that was that the regardless of what design the ships are going with, the organic texture makes the ships look like they were constructed using an entirely different technological background

In other words, it's not unreasonable that the Vasari could suddenly sit back and say, "you know guys, I think from now on we should make our ships shaped like ducks'. Silly, yes, but within the confines of what is realistically possible.  But that's not what we're talking about, this is a case

I would suggest looking again. Especially with the likes of the Antorak or Skirantra. Some of the Vasari ships are some of the shiniest, most metallic looking examples of high tech construction in the game. Organic in design, but a far cry from appearing to have any biological elements in their construction.

Which is why we're posting our opinions on them ... Not that I actually have much hopes for that. Plenty of things I'd expect to change, but would be surprised to see any major reworks to the appearance of any Titans.

Really? The Radiance? It has to be my least favourite Advent capital, and most Advent ships are anything but "sleek and deadly" looking, including the Radiance, the thing is incredibly boxy. I'm drawn more towards the likes of the Halcyon, mystic and almost artistic with feminine curves.

The Coronata, to me, looks like some kind of idol, almost, and keeping in mind that the Advent are a quasireligion, it wouldn't surprise me if we get lore related to it being based on the likeness of some great Unity prophet, knowing the loyalists, probably the one who said "go forth and kill the TEC."

In the Eradica's case, it's less butterfly, more angel, the orginal name for it was Cherubim. Again, fits the theme of the Unity "religion."

My problem with the advent titans are that they really don't look like ships more like floating structures. I'd like to see something more along the lines of the radiance or halcyon sleek, purpose built, warships. Not floating statues.

you got to understand that in space there is no air resistance or gravity so a ship doesn't have to look like a ship it just has to have a powerful enough engine. Personally though I have no problem with any of the titan designs

I'm suspending judgement until I can play the factions in their entirety, but I think the "butterfly" is the only titan that I somewhat have a problem with. The other Advent titan isn't what I would pick but it fits with the revelation quite nicely. The Vasari one guarding the occupied planet could look less like a plucked flower in shape but the eye looks wicked and its "pedals" look nice and metallic to me. :-/

I do not mind the looks of the new Titans, i suppose they could look better, but as far i am concerned, i like the shape of the Vasari Loyalist Titan, which will be my faction of choice. Funnily, at first i was horrified, when i saw it, marking it as "oversized fighter". but the design grew on me.

There is one thing though, i do not like about the graphics. The chrome/mirror-like glossiness of both TEC and Vasari ships... when you look at them closely, they have the metallic specular highlight on them, which is fine, but from some angles you can see they reflect the environment, like there were from ice, or there was a layer of lacquer on top of that metal.... i do not like that. It is fine for Advent, as their ships had the chrome-like looking surface before, but it makes absolutely no sense for the other factions. IMHO TEC units should get rid of it, but obviously keep that metallic highlight, while i would picture the highlight of Vasari´s ship surfaces to look like plastic or rubber.

I was not disappointed by the designs, I certainly do not think any of them look horrible. But I was surprised at a few of the designs.

The Vasari Rebel ship (the "flower") came as a shock compared to their loyalist ship. Since their Loyalists are the ones that eat entire planets I was expecting the Loyalist ship to be the stranger of the two (it reminds me a little of their Orkulus starbases so I was expecting it to get the devour/vortex ability). I kind of wish that the Rebel flower was twice it's current size and was the planet-eater while the Loyalist ship was scaled down a bit and used more traditionally by the rebels.

As for the Advent, only two small gripes there. First, their Loyalist ship is a little boring looking. Very similar to some of their older ship designs. And second, I do not care for the way both of their Titans feature large vertical discs/halos in their design. It seems a little uninspired (and looks really weird on their Rebel titan since there is nothing anchoring it to the hull). I would have dropped the disc from their Rebel ship and maybe experimented with turning their Loyalist ship on it's backside.

If you're really bothered by it, make a mod...

>.>

Contrary to you, i am actually glad the Orkulus like design is the loyalist one. The "flower" is not compact enough and because of that it looks IMHO smaller than it is.  In fact,generally speaking i prefer the compact Vasari designs over the spikey ones. I like Kortul, Vulkoras, Orkulus, Ruiner.... do not like Antorak and none of the Cruisers or Frigates, bar perhaps the Overseer Cruiser.

I agree that the Advent Titans should look more like a real ship.

In fact, I don´t like the design of the Vasari-Rebell Titan either, but that´s just my personal attitude, at least it looks somehow like a spaceship.

I really like the jobs they did on the titans. They made them stick with the general feel of the races, but at the same time made them very unique so they stand out in a battle.

I play Advent and let me tell ya, I can't WAIT to get my hands on those capital ships...

The ships will always stand out in a battle, they are huge.  A HUGE slightly improved Halcyon would look better then any of the advent titans currently being shown.  I'm still vehemently against the vagina/womb inspiration for the loyalist advent titan, but what can I do?  You can't convince a poor designer that their work sucks and have them want to improve it.  That is why we won't see a change.

At least the rebel advent titan looks way better then the initial artwork....  Can't stand humanoid looking ships, but I guess I can stuff my artistic heart into that simple box.