maybe a bug ? on Beta of course

I started a single player map and god knows how after 5to 10 minutes my enemy had already created an experimental weapon !! wtf I beleive there was not enough time to do the research and of he shouldn't have enough ressources so BUG??? 

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Reply #1 Top

Tec loyalists can access the research using 6 weapons labs, and the AI tends to spam 3 or 4 of those on their homeworld right at the beginning. An additional assteroid is enough to unlock the remaining labs.

However 10 minutes seems to be a tad annoying, even for the AI. They do love superweapon spam now, that's bad enough as is.

Reply #2 Top

However i have 5 hours old game that has two loyalist TECs, and the only Novalith in the game is mine, so it's not consistent behaviour. They also spammed LRFs instead of capital ships this time.

This was on the Nemesis map, so it just may be because i took the volcanic and terran planet early, maybe they didn't have the resources to commit to that strategy?

Reply #3 Top

Quoting ToJKa, reply 2
However i have 5 hours old game that has two loyalist TECs, and the only Novalith in the game is mine, so it's not consistent behaviour. They also spammed LRFs instead of capital ships this time.
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There are different types of AI, and the AI won't always use the exact same tactics even if it is the same type.

Reply #4 Top

I beleive there was not enough time to do the research and of he shouldn't have enough ressources so BUG???
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Some of the higher levels also have an increase in research speed as well. I have seen the Vicious level AI spam Heavy Cruisers almost from the initial meeting.

Reply #5 Top

Played a round on point blanc yesterday, took over all planets safe for the asteroid next to the enemy desert homeworld. Fifteen minutes into the game the hard AI started spamming Ogrovs and Kodiaks like hell, prove enough to me that they don't need much room to obtain high-tier researches. And since they get a money bonus (hard AI gets 2 times the money and resources a normal player would get IIRC) they could afford to press for high level stuff like superweapons right away and set up a fleet at the same time while a human player has to focus on the fleet alone, given they have enough space to put the weapon labs there.

Reply #6 Top

thanks everyone

It also seems that the AI cheats ( or buy) his Titan level !! I killes his titan level one and after 10 minutes nice surprise it came back level 4 !!  that was nice !

On another matter, does AI plays only capitalships now ? cause I played a 2v2v2 and the 5 AI had only capital ships and their titan ^^ and of course 14 CS paid level 6 but if they dont use any fregate nor cruisers it kinda weak  does someone knows anything about that?

Thanks again

Reply #7 Top

Titans retain their level when they die, but lose all experience towards the next level, so say your Titan dies at level 4 with 1998/2000 exp and you rebuild it, it will still be level 4, but will need to regain all that exp from 0/2000.

 

As for only Capital AI, I've seen a few of those, but I've also seen more typical AI with frigate and cruiser support fleets. I'm really not sure where these Capital AIs have come from, but they're pretty laughable.

Reply #8 Top

Quoting genesis666, reply 6
thanks everyone

It also seems that the AI cheats ( or buy) his Titan level !! I killes his titan level one and after 10 minutes nice surprise it came back level 4 !!  that was nice !

On another matter, does AI plays only capitalships now ? cause I played a 2v2v2 and the 5 AI had only capital ships and their titan ^^ and of course 14 CS paid level 6 but if they dont use any fregate nor cruisers it kinda weak  does someone knows anything about that?

Thanks again
End of genesis666's quote

All titans do that even yours :)

Reply #9 Top

Yeah I know Titans come back same level but this one came back 3 level up !!! in 10 minutes and I'm his only enemy I would have seen him going from level one to level 4 at some point ! so I just wondered If Vicious AI could cheat the titan levels

Reply #10 Top

Oh, right.

It's Vicious, so probably. I'm fairly certain they can already train their capitals to level 7 or something.

Reply #11 Top

Level 6 I belive. Cruel can level them higher, too (stops at 5 I belive) so I wouldn't consider it impossible.

 

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Anyone notice the Ai rather flee it's Home planet if you kill a capitial ship or you bring there forces down.

Reply #13 Top

That was the case since the original Sins I belive. They usually have their production around there, so sometimes they'll chicken out like crazy and hide their fleet over there once you've shown them your fleet can kick their behind.