The power of the Tec

That starbase was probably casting Meteor Storm on your fleet while you fought within range of it's weapons. Meanwhile the Titan is casting an AoE on you while you whittle away at one of two targets that take quite a long time to go down. The Titan may also have been getting a large damage buff every time you killed a corvette near it.

Also mass disorientation.

Technically Advent does have the strongest fleet so yes to your last question. Like above taking Meteor Storm kills any fleet.

You should never charge a starbase lets just put it like that. And the Advent have stronger fleet synergy especially late game. But that does not make the TEC weaker then the Advent.

Advent defenses are probably the best in the game. You'll want several Ogrovs, LRMs with an Akkan to fire at the Starbase from out of range, or just tons of bombers, rather than fighting them head one.

The TEC titans seem a lot stronger than the Advent ones so you certainly didn't loose because of that, unless your titan was lower leveled.

to me i think the TRT is the best followed by the ART then TLT and the worst is the ALT

Advent have a massive buff in firepower in their own gavitywell and have many powerful AOE attacks on thethie ships and starbase. Their tactical structures can buff shields and shield regen, can restore shields on single targets (if you were forcusing on the SB) and regenerate their AM.

If they were rebels their titan gets quite a firepower buff when their ships die, they can also attack you with a strong AOE attack.

The Advent Loyalist titan can mass-convert your ships and weaken your firepower by large amounts just by standing next to your fleet.

Your best bet is taking along 20+ Ogrovs and taking out the SB from outside it's range (Akkans increase your range to gains some additional safety distance) as quickly as possible and then take down the corvettes (rebel case) or the titan first (loyalist case).

Edit: One Titan being "better" than the others is suerly a thing of preference. I for one like the Advent Loyalist titan best for being able to debuff and take over fleets. The TEC and advent Rebel Titans are not my kind of thing, especially the Advent one. The TEC Rebel titan is too much of a loner for my tastes, ability wise.

No. You have it wrong. This is how it goes:

TLT - TRT - ART - ALT.

TLT is so OP it isn't even funny.

I have to disagree with you there. If you actually look at the defense for the Advent its not that good. Beam Turrets have a nice increase in damage from Synergy but thats meh. And our Hangers give us +2 fighters per squadron and a nice shield to buildings. I do like our starbase though, meteors are fun but the enemy has to get very close to actually use this ability but is easily avoidable.

But the TEC get a range increase to their turrets(Which I believe allows them to hit LRF's) as well as a cooldown upgrade and its not even just that they have a short range rocket barrage. And to top it off they also can be equiped with Meson Bolt which does respectable damage and reduces the armor of enemies. Their hangers can be upgraded with Flak(I would easily trade this for both upgrades of the Advents hangers). this pretty much takes care of the TEC's need to have flak around their starbases. And don't get me started on red buttons range compared to Meteor Storm.

Im not saying that the Advent have bad defense, its moderate at best, mediocre at worst. But I wouldn't feed people with the idea that the Advent have the best defenses. This is just my opinion though.

Mayall, Advent get range upgrades on their beam defense platforms as well, in fact to all beam weapons.

I do get jaleous that TEC gauss platforms have all that firepower though.

/faceplam the TLT is so not OP is has like no attack power both rebels titans r better than the loyalist titans

The Advent defenses are weaker in the means of doing damage, but they have the better survivablity. The shield regen from the bestowal ability makes sure of that. Ironcally they are more suspectibale to fighters than the TEC or Vasari ones, but as you said that doesn't make them weak.

As I see it the defenses are like that:

Advent: Survivablity

TEC: Heavy fire

Vasari: Disable and whittle down

All of them kinda have their own little quirks the player has to look out for, and I kinda like that.

The rebel's shield regeneration upgrade really helps in regards to survivability.

Haha no way, firepower is not everything Martox1.

The fleet utility you get from the Loyalist Titan is awesome. Damage Reduction, AoE ability disable, a Heal to keep the titan alive, and abilities that mess with cooldowns. Sure the firepower of the Rebel TEC titan is good, but late game the player with the level 10 Ankylon wins the day.

Its alot like the Coronata its not a greedy Titan like the rebel one is. The coranata Debuffs the enemy teams titan and takes over planets(which gives the player a boosted economy. Subjugation is pretty meh, but if you get something like a Hoshika its pretty good and Unity Mass is basically the Advent version of snipe.

I disagree, simply because I think the Rebel titan will gain levels faster because it can destroy the Ankylon's fleet faster. The Ragnarov doesn't need a fleet to do damage, it can just warp in, blow as many ships up for XP as possible, then get out because the Ankylon doesn't have the stopping power. Eventually this level gap will give the Ragnarov the edge. If they both get to level 10 its an interesting match up, but even if the Ankylon can easily absorb the 700-900 DPS the Ragnarov is dishing out its support fleet will not, meaning the Ankylon will probably be outnumbered and its owner will be vulnerable to attacks on other fronts.

I think people overestimate titan strength to much. I see people rushing them all the time and I understand why but if you just macro out a fleet the person with the titan will lose. Badly. That semi has what to do with what you said Goa because it all depends on when and where you get your titan. I have a strategy that can get my Titan to level 3 before it even faces and enemy player. While I do agree early on the Ankylon vs Ragnarov with an equal fleet will lose(i've actually had it end in a stalemate where we both lost our titans). Fleet power decides who actually wins the early engagements not who gets their titan out the fastest. A titan is just as vulnerable to focus fire as a capital ship early on(does not mean its the best route of course).

I agree. Yesterday I was playing a game with 5 AIs, minding my own business colonizing planets and building a strong economy, and then the message appreas " a hostile empire has launched a Titan!". Oh no! I need a Titan to fight the enemy Titan! Well no. The level 1 enemy Titan jumped in my territory not long after and was cut to pieces by bombers and a very lightly upgraded star base.

Exactly my point, which is why i don't understand why 'pro's' rush titans, it seems really dumb to me. I get my titan after I am done fleeting(generally after I get all my capital ships(I like capital ships<33333))

Yeah, I sometimes just go for my old diplomacy fleet composition now instead of titans. Capships plus small but strong support fleets, secure the front wells with a starbase and back them up with some ships and watch other players fail to plow through with their titan and run with the tail between their legs. My friends haven't learned that yet, so I'm even beating people that mopped the floor with me in diplomacy .

I agree, I have a lot of standard openers and strategies for my Advent composition. Getting a good bulk of Corvettes early on is great way to defend against LRF's now. But once you get a stable economy you can start working for defense vessels(and Disciples if required.). Soon after I tend to get Illuminators. Somewhere in there I macro up enough currency to get my four primary Capital Ships. The Progenitor is really good for the fleet especially with Malice and the Shield Restoration. But im not going to go into full detail on my strategies that would be telling!

I liked the Radiance, by end game at least 6 to 8 of them leading my armada.

Then you went and told me it was sub-par to the other caps. Now everytime I build one I have a nagging voice in my head telling "IT'S BAD, IT'S BAD, BUILD SOMETHING ELSE!"

D:

Any battleship is subpar to the other capital ships. The only exception is the Vasari.

Technically the new Discord is classified as a Battleship its actually very good. I always get it second if I have a Progenitor, an third if I start with a Halcyon. And the Radiance has its role, its really good against stopping a Sova Embargo. If its single player feel free to build one.

Damn you Vasari!

I did a small 1v1 to try it out intensely, then the other guy made a Radiance.

Thankfully, the AI was a moron and I managed to take down the Radiance without taking too much damage. Had it actually known how to use one properly, I would have gotten owned.

Seriously, though, in MP, does it not serve a role as a capital ship killer? No one's ever used it early game to murder enemy caps then later scuttled it then ressurected it into a level 10 something-more-useful?