For people who already own the Diplomacy expansion, I still think $30 is a little steep.  IMHO, the primary reason for purchasing Rebellion is online multiplayer PvP.  Most of the PvP action ("the real Sins game") has moved to Rebellion and hopefully hundreds of people will play it in online multiplayer at any given time once the game has been officially released.  Otherwise, if I only played it in single player against the silly AI, I'd probably just enjoy the numerous mods for Diplomacy instead.

I didnt really get caught in the hype, rebellion is pretty much what I expected it to be; titans and subfactions. fuck yea titans and subfactions. And compared to other games with subfactions this isnt such a bad deal, unique titans and game altering researches is pretty hefty for just a subfaction. I'd like to say this again SUBFACTION I dont recall stardock calling them factions, only subfactions. Its not their fault you cant tell the diffrence .

Angry faces asside, this expansion basically added what I was missing in SOASE, I never really tried mods because unlike any elder scrolls game I've played, SOASE isnt unplayable without them. And there wasnt anything I was really missing (if there is a battlefleet gothic total conversion mod let me know).

oh and by the way you forgot 10 -> 14 ability slots on capitalships. Meaning you can actually spec them towards things, Instead of being stuck with 3/3/3/1. Another big plus for me.

EDIT: The only disapointing bit sofar is that you cant tell subfactions apart from the exterior of ships asside from the obvious titans. But if the game is really made by a 10 man(or woman) team, then I cant blame them. Reskinning almost every ship ingame would be an atrocious amount of work. It's definitely on my do want list though, even if its only capitals, or ships/buildings affected specifically by faction based researches.

Excuse me for not being satisfied with a copy paste job from the previous game. Having built-in new planet types and other additions to break up the grating similarities to Trinity would be really nice and simple to do. Then I don't have to hunt unsuccessfully for someone with the same mod files to play a game with.

Replacing ships with successors gives the option to introduce new strategy by allowing the properties of the new ships to differ from the old ships. Every race and faction in SOASE is basically a reskin of the other. They all have light frigates with nearly identical properties. They all have heavy cruisers that behave basically the same way. They have the same ship classes and types. They play roughly similar. The only thing that significantly differentiates each race and faction is abilities. There is no such thing as a Zerg rush in Sins nor is there a GDI behemoth. Introducing successors with different strengths and weaknesses allows for races and factions to be better differentiated. It allows the developers to correct what I see as an issue with the original game.

It's been over 2 years since the last release of a SOASE expansion. What have they been doing for the past 2 years?

I remember when expansions used to be expensive, 30 bucks for one seems resonable by comparison. It's sad that the upgrade from diplomacy to rebellion is only 25% cheaper then the full standalone expansion. but thats usually how stand alone expansions work. I didnt get anything off supcom: forged alliance.

And are you seriously comparing starcraft - starcraft 2 to SoaSE - SoaSE Rebellion? One is a 2d strategy game from 1998, the other a new (2010) tripple A title by the same, now huge, developer. SoaSE is an rts released by a small new developer in 2008, rebellion is the latest(2012) expansion to that game. Also starcraft was the 9th game blizzard made, they were alread succesfull before they made it, SoaSE is the first game ironclad has made. And finaly, comparing a sequal to an expansion? If anything compare it to broodwar not starcraft 2, what did blizzard add in broodwar? seven new units(total) and a new campaign, several new maps. SoaSE rebellion has added 12 new units(total) and how many new researches?

I bought StarCraft 2 too and it was a waste of money. It cost me over 50 EUROs almost a year after it came out.   And i would argue with the statement, that SC2 looks nothing like SC1. Obviously, its not 2D anymore, but its graphics is as cartoony as the original was. Additionally it is hardly breath-taking, not really better than Rebellion has. The most important thing, gameplay-wise, SC2 made hardly any progress compared to SC1, its basically the same game as 10 years ago.

I wonder, if you (meaning jartigerx now) are going to buy Heart of Swarm. Cause its surely not going to cost 10/20 EUROs and it will definitely have the same graphics and add about 3 new units per faction, and that will be the entire change to the gameplay. When you think about that, Rebellion with its 12 new units and cca 40 new techs does not look that bad anymore.

Rebellions graphics are great, I wont argue that.

And yeah, im comparing it based off of cost.  I dont find SC2 all that 'cartoony' and obviously neither do the tons of players who kept the 1998 game popular for the better part of 12 years.

Dont get me wrong, Ive played SoSE tons and tons and tons of hours.  I was expecting something more than a handful of ships, no redone meshes on existing ships, no real difference between the factions other than a few techs and a titan.

SoSE is a great game, and I still enjoy it.  I don't feel that its worth 40 bucks (30 for returning users).  Sequel vs Expansion, I get.  But the cost of Rebellion vs the cost of Diplo and Entrenchment....seems like they are charging for a sequel.

Yes ill buy Heart of the Swarm.  Story line & the new Units and game play adjustments that are planned are significant to me.  But to each their own. 

That's great but it only serves to further my point that cost vs product is a bit....unbalanced.  And again, I play the game, and as a customer im allowed to voice my thoughts on what I find to be a wanting product.  Just like ive seen everyone else do at one time or another on these forums.

Looooots of people have said the same things im saying. 

I just check my receipts.

Entrenchment - $9.95

Diplomacy - $9.95

I pre-ordered both but the price was the same on release.

The Trinity pack was $39.99 on release and that was released alongside the Diplomacy micro-expansion but as was said, Diplomacy and Entrenchment have always been $10.

I must be mistaken then. Could have sworn they were more expensive.

I have to admit, I am also disappointed with Rebellion.... as everyone else has so well detailed the hype put out for the product =/= the product and the money value charged =/= actual products worth (especially when compared to previous expansions). 

Rebellion should be no more than $10.00 just like all the other expansions. It's a shame really. 

SoSE is more of a strategy game that requires thought and planning vs as you said SC2 requiring building...Thors...for example first.  However what I was comparing was the value of the item vs the cost.  And I really like SoSE as ive said.  The idea is great but it is really not worth the money.  $10 bucks for Trinity owners would have been reasonable since as I keep seeing its an expansion, not a sequel.

Especially when others don't feel cheated. Like me.