Vasari Voices and Ship Design

Did the Vasari voices change? I'm not an expert, but I remember different voices. The ones in Rebellion sound very raspy.

As much as I love this game and salute Ironclad, I will be honest - I was hoping for a different ship design... something cleaner and sleeker. Perhaps, for some, the ship design is sleek, but it just wasn't quite what I had hoped. Maybe that will change. I still love the game, but just saying, as someone who hasn't really played the Vasari until now, what I saw fell a little short of what I expected. To be fair, there are things that I really like about the Vasari so I have mixed feelings.

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I played Vasari briefly when I got off work yesterday and later watched my friend play. He likes the Vasari a lot, but also doesn't care for the raspy voices. I later played as the Vasari Loyalists for a while and there were some cool abilities, but the look just didn't grab me.

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No, no, I think the voices are still the same.

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I'm aware of the excellent mods out there, but are there voice packs too (for un-modded Sins)?

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 Not really blown by the voice-over myself, but its acceptable...and some of the unit taunts(?) are pretty funny.

 In regard to ship design, especially Vasari, overall its IMHO very satisfying, i personally dont like some of the over the top "pointy" and "stingy" Vasari models, but those more compact ones, like Kortul, Vulkoras, Skirantra, Overseer, Skirmisher,  Destructor, Ruiner ... are very good, have a lot of character and would be good enough for any real sci-fi TV show...Oh and Orkulus as well and new Titans indeed too, especially the Loyalist one.

In general, i do not know, how many models did the Ignus Dei fellow for Sins, whether all of them, or only those, you can see as concept art on his deviant art page, but those shown there are all masterclass and i would not change one bit about them. I even like his original sketch of the Advent Starbase with basically simple vertical cylinder more, than the final ingame version with the DS9-like pylon.   

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The new vasari battleship is just downright ugly, and the titans look almost organic.  They just don't fit at all with the high tech sleek look of the old vasari ship models.  It seems odd, even though they seemed to try and make all the new ships distinct, the new TEC and Advent ships/titans actually fit with the existing look of their respective fleets.

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Quoting Timmaigh, reply 4
some of the unit taunts(?) are pretty funny.
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Cool, I will have to check that out.

Quoting Timmaigh, reply 4
In regard to ship design, especially Vasari, overall its IMHO very satisfying, i personally dont like some of the over the top "pointy" and "stingy" Vasari models, but those more compact ones, like Kortul, Vulkoras, Skirantra, Overseer, Skirmisher, Destructor, Ruiner ... are very good
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Yeah, exactly. Some were too over the top. I did like a few of the ships like the colony cap. The SB and Titans really bothered me. As Blueshocked put it, too "organic" or bug-like, in my opinion. I was hoping for a more high tech look.

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As someone who plays Vasari almost exclusively, I'm fine with the voices and love the design of the Vorastra, and IMO the Kultorask is fine.

The Rankulas's shape is fine, but the skin just doesn't line up with the previous Vasari ships.  There's not enough armor and too much glowy segments.  That said, because art takes a while to do, even though I hate the Corsev's shape, I'm not going to demand a remake, though I'd certainly like it lol.

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Yeah, I'm not going to ask for a remake. This is their vision so I need to adapt. If enough people wanted a more high tech look and they decided to remake it as such then I'd be okay with that too. I don't see that happening. I'm betting most people either are okay with it or actually like it, so I may be in the minority. It's funny you say that about the Corsev - I also am not a fan of it's shape (if I'm thinking of the same ship - the boarding ship for TEC).

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Quoting Coridane, reply 8
Yeah, I'm not going to ask for a remake. This is their vision so I need to adapt. If enough people wanted a more high tech look and they decided to remake it as such then I'd be okay with that too. I don't see that happening. I'm betting most people either are okay with it or actually like it, so I may be in the minority. It's funny you say that about the Corsev - I also am not a fan of it's shape (if I'm thinking of the same ship - the boarding ship for TEC).
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i do not think anyone with a bit of taste in design can like it looks. Its horrible. The sad thing is, it looked most likely decent at least as concept art, the way Rankulas did, but the execution did not go very well.

And yeah, they should get rid of glossy shiny hull parts of Rankulas and make it metallic black like the rest of the Vasari fleets. It already deviates in shape, there needs to be at least something to "connect" it with the rest design-wise. In this case hull color/material shader. 

 

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Quoting Blueshocked, reply 5
The new vasari battleship is just downright ugly, and the titans look almost organic.  They just don't fit at all with the high tech sleek look of the old vasari ship models.  It seems odd, even though they seemed to try and make all the new ships distinct, the new TEC and Advent ships/titans actually fit with the existing look of their respective fleets.
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Agreed. The designs looks ok, but it really doesnt fit the Vasari look. It copies the ship design for Species 8472 from Star Trek, which uses an all organic ship. Their new capital ship also doesnt fit in imo, too... shiny and cool lol...

If you ask me, best designs for Vasari are probably along the lines of a fusion of Klingon and Romulan ship designs... Look thhreatening but at the same time sleek...

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The Vasari corvettes are the only Vasari ships that have downright bad designs IMO. They look like roaches and it just doesn't work.

The Rankulas needs a metallic black skin with no glowing bits at all and then it would be fine. The nanite swarms look pretty ugly as well. Almost all Vasari designs were originally metallic black. SC and the heavy cruisers were then changed to grey which was not an improvement.

For the Advent, the Coranata skin and the Adjudicator model both seem to clash with the other designs.

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Quoting JuleTron, reply 11
The Vasari corvettes are the only Vasari ships that have downright bad designs IMO. They look like roaches and it just doesn't work.
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I agree, the other new Vasari ships are nice. Good thing their corvettes aren't as important!

Quoting JuleTron, reply 11
The Rankulas needs a metallic black skin with no glowing bits at all and then it would be fine. The nanite swarms look pretty ugly as well. Almost all Vasari designs were originally metallic black. SC and the heavy cruisers were then changed to grey which was not an improvement.
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Aren't the glowing bits the nanite reactors it uses to create the ships? I kind of like that part. The armor could be darker to fit in more but they don't all have to be metallic black, I like the heavy cruiser's look quite a lot actually.

Quoting JuleTron, reply 11
For the Advent, the Coranata skin and the Adjudicator model both seem to clash with the other designs.
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Look like it fits to me. The resemblance to the Revelation is quite noticeable.

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The shape of the Coronata is good I agree although it has some organic quality that doesn't seem right somehow.

Its the colour that seems wrong. In that screenshot, look at the Revelation and the carrier and then look at the Coronata. The purplish metallic seems out of place compared to the clean white appearance of the older ships IMO.

EDIT: This could just simply indicate that the races are evolving their designs I guess.

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The designs of all the titans are fine but I think that some needs "engines" for example Vorastra titan haven't got it and is strange see the "fire effect" (I don't know the name) floating in the back

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Quoting JuleTron, reply 13
The shape of the Coronata is good I agree although it has some organic quality that doesn't seem right somehow.

Its the colour that seems wrong. In that screenshot, look at the Revelation and the carrier and then look at the Coronata. The purplish metallic seems out of place compared to the clean white appearance of the older ships IMO.

EDIT: This could just simply indicate that the races are evolving their designs I guess.
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The most annoying part about Advent ships, and the main reason i am not fan of them, are their textures. You just see with them, that its just texture mapped onto plain 3D model and it should be in fact 3D, but because the model would be complicated, its just "drawn". Literally, they look like somebody took a pencil and drew all the stuff like trenches in hull-plating, etc.. on them. Prime example is that snail shell "drawing" on Drone Hosts and other ships - this looks incredibly lame and 2Dish.  Neither Vasari nor TEC ships suffer from this that much, most likely because of darker hulls, but i do not recall even ships in Homeworld 2 to suffer from this too much.  

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Quoting _Burner_, reply 15
The designs of all the titans are fine but I think that some needs "engines" for example Vorastra titan haven't got it and is strange see the "fire effect" (I don't know the name) floating in the back
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the engine effects on the vorastra with no engines really bugged me. I mean theres pleanty of room for the engines so why just a single effect.

Also the vasari corvette look terrible, way to bug like, needs more reaper style, though they very usefull.