Stripping Planets, worth it?

I'm trying out the VL, and with all their new perks I figured I would try a consolidated empire that was heavily fortified and simply have a campaign fleet that stripped the galaxy bare as they went around battling instead of trying to hold tons of planets.

However, the resource gain from stripping a planet did not seem all that rewarding.  Keeping it over a longer period seems like it would prove more sensible.  Do different planet sizes/types give different types of reward upon strip?

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Reply #1 Top

I haven't played a new game since the retail game went live so the values may have changed in the last week...

In the last beta period however, the value for a Terran planet was something in the neighborhood of 20000 credits, and a couple thousand of both metal and crystal.  Ice planets would naturally yield a large chunk of crystal and volcanic, a pile of metal along with a still respectable amount of credits.  For a click and 30 seconds of wait time, that's a pretty massive influx of resources and a huge immediate advantage over your opponents.  Especially if the world you scrap is closer to their empire than yours. 

And that's just the immediate benefit.  The resources you're able to deny your opponent by stripping worlds close to their home is a further advantage that lasts for the remaining duration of the game.

But again, that's how it was at the end of beta.  I'm not sure what it looks like now.

Reply #2 Top

Ok, I cannot recall, but there's a sizable possibility that the planet I stripped was dwarf or another small type.  So if it does depend on that it makes more sense.

Reply #3 Top

It's only worth it if you like being able to build 10 capital ships, your titan, starbases, and a cannon or two before most players have their 3rd capital ship out.

 

Otherwise it's crap.

Reply #4 Top

for conquered planet you don't want to defend it's worth it. You can then insure he can't retake a bottleneck by destroying it... hence no static defenses, etc

Reply #5 Top

Even if it wasn't worth it, sometimes you just have those days where you want to see the worlds burn.

 

Even after Beta, the planet-planets still yield a great amount of material. Naturally, dwarf planets and asteroids - not so much. Worse comes to worse, you can strip planets, then populate the left-over asteroid and begin mining. Or if you hate your enemies as much as I do, capture the remenant and then blow it up as well [that doesn't get you a thing, for the record].

Reply #6 Top

Quoting Mr_Book, reply 3
It's only worth it if you like being able to build 10 capital ships, your titan, starbases, and a cannon or two before most players have their 3rd capital ship out.

 

Otherwise it's crap.
End of Mr_Book's quote

 

I was under the impression strip-rushing was still OP?

Reply #7 Top

Quoting bilun, reply 7



Quoting Mr_Book,
reply 3
It's only worth it if you like being able to build 10 capital ships, your titan, starbases, and a cannon or two before most players have their 3rd capital ship out.

 

Otherwise it's crap.


 

I was under the impression strip-rushing was still OP?
End of bilun's quote

Reading comprehesion/sarcasm detection fail.

Reply #8 Top

I haven't played VL in multiplayer yet. But I love the idea of sending out a quick strike force to rich planets near the enemy's home before destroying them. While he's scrabbling around looking for good planets, you can gain a nice upper hand colonizing and keeping intact worlds.

 

And I feel like strip-mining an enemy's home world (even if he's already left the game) would be the ultimate middle finger to the opposing team.

Reply #9 Top

strip ALL your planets right away so you get more $, worry about things later! with $ u get army then u win

Reply #10 Top

Smells like a rush tactic,

 

Consume as many planets as possible, build a killer fleet and quickly chew up the enemy from the inside out, keeping the occasional planet to rebuild lost ships.

Reply #11 Top

Quoting Ekko_Tek, reply 8

Quoting bilun, reply 7


Quoting Mr_Book,
reply 3
It's only worth it if you like being able to build 10 capital ships, your titan, starbases, and a cannon or two before most players have their 3rd capital ship out.

 

Otherwise it's crap.


 

I was under the impression strip-rushing was still OP?


Reading comprehesion/sarcasm detection fail.
End of Ekko_Tek's quote

Well crud, reading that again i don't know what i was smoking this morning.

Reply #12 Top

Quoting DoctorVinyl, reply 9
And I feel like strip-mining an enemy's home world (even if he's already left the game) would be the ultimate middle finger to the opposing team.
End of DoctorVinyl's quote

Yes, yes it is. And, strangely enough, it is horribly satisfying in even a single player game where you've already won, yet you click 'keep playing' just to tear that thing to shreds. Strange because the AI doesn't care, yet you know they are cowering in their coding like the Dalek when they hear the doctor's name.

Mwaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaa!

Reply #13 Top

How does one strip a planet? This then turns it into an asteroid you can destroy?

Thanks for any info! :)

Reply #14 Top

Just abandon the planet after researching "stripped to the core" (vasari loyalist only).

*Warning* Consuming large quantities of planets has been shown to induce oniomania in most Loyalist Vasari. Any Loyalist Vasari that is thinking about consuming a planet should consult it's doctor prior to consumption. Other side effects may include headaches, nausea, spontaneous combustion, giddiness, delusions of grandeur, and speaking in a raspy voice.

In addition, some Loyalist Vasari may experience a state not unlike "brain freeze" (which is a popular condition among lesser races after eating cold objects too quickly) after consuming an ice world. Should such a condition occur, the best course is to consume a lava world afterwards (provided your doctor states it is safe to do so. See your doctor for details)

Reply #15 Top

Quoting Gordon96, reply 14
How does one strip a planet? This then turns it into an asteroid you can destroy?

Thanks for any info!
End of Gordon96's quote

ChaoticMagician's way is harder! this is the easiest way

alright so first you need to have the evacuator cap ship in the gravity well of the planet/asteriod you want to strip (so that population can evacuate)

then bring in the desolator cap ship preferebly 2 of them for more $ when stripping a planet. sellect attack and then click on the planet! if it dose not let you(that means the population of the planet is rebelling- bring in more ships into the gravity well to devestate them) after about 2 min it should work. then repeat with the rest of your planets!

hope it helps

Reply #16 Top

Gotcha thanks. LOL at ChaoticMagicians response! :)

 

Just to be clear, can any faction do this, or just Vassari Loyalist?

 

Reply #17 Top

Only Loyalists can strip planets. Both vasari get a "drain planet" ability on their Evacuator cap ship, but technically that's bombardment, not stripping.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting bilun, reply 7
Quoting Mr_Book, reply 3
It's only worth it if you like being able to build 10 capital ships, your titan, starbases, and a cannon or two before most players have their 3rd capital ship out.

 

Otherwise it's crap.
 

I was under the impression strip-rushing was still OP?
End of bilun's quote

LOOOOOOOL 

You made me laugh so much I cried  k1

Reply #19 Top

Quoting ChaoticMagician, reply 18
Only Loyalists can strip planets. Both vasari get a "drain planet" ability on their Evacuator cap ship, but technically that's bombardment, not stripping.
End of ChaoticMagician's quote

well in the presence of a desolaor cap with the bombardment skill point the evacuator cap gets a buff> and it dose strip to the core

Reply #20 Top

Axxo2 have you ever actually played SoaSE?

Reply #21 Top

LOLOLOL

Rushing Strip to the Core and then eating every terran and desert plan is 100% guarantee of winning right now.  Hopefully balance changes will nerf it a little.

Reply #22 Top

Quoting Mr_Book, reply 21
Axxo2 have you ever actually played SoaSE?
End of Mr_Book's quote

:troll: lol yes i have, i was kidding :), maybe we should play u vs me mp :) sometime

Reply #23 Top

Quoting Mr_Book, reply 21
Axxo2 have you ever actually played SoaSE?
End of Mr_Book's quote

 

Think he means the Vulkoras Desolator.  Could work on his spelling though.

 

Regarding the planet rewards, its definitely planet-dependent - I remember that a ice planet I stripped gave about 10K crystal and 10K credits.

Reply #24 Top

Quoting axxo2, reply 23

Quoting Mr_Book, reply 21Axxo2 have you ever actually played SoaSE?

lol yes i have, i was kidding , maybe we should play u vs me mp sometime
End of axxo2's quote

 

The problem is that any nerf will make it outright useless.

 

Even right now, stripping is good for about two things:

- Strategic denial of planet from opponent

- Strip-rushing - this has to happen early enough and you must not fail to use the resources correctly. You also have to keep your momentum, because if you stop stripping, you barely have any income. And even that won't guarantee you success on large maps with many players.

Stripping for resources is huge gamble - you have to build a fleet and have to utilize it to defeat/cripple your opponents. If you fail to do it, you have nothing - no economy and crippled fleet. On the other hand, if you instead left the planet and filled it with trade ports (especially if it would allow you to prolong your trade line), the planet would generate the same money in about 10 minutes and would continue to do so for hours.

 

I love VL, but not for stripping - that is just a gimmick. IMO the true power is in their economy. Once you have Shiboard labs, you can scrap all your labs and build trade ports instead - this is huge boon on crowded maps. Another great source of income is the capital ship taxation. Pair this with Vorastra, the ultimate harassment machine (it can pass through gravity wells in moments, easily escape when overwhelmed and call its army when it needs it) and fun is guaranteed.