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AceXMachine

Join Date 09/2003

Issue with Militia on custom map...

Ok, Having an issue trying to make a "RandomMilitia" template for use on some of the planets on my map. I finally got the map to where it is colonized by the Militia and has its default force (the group in the template with type set to "Always"), but none of the groups set to ""PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithChance" groups every take effect even if I set the param to 0.9. Look below for an excerpt from my galaxy file:

TXT
versionNumber 4
isBrowsable TRUE
browsePictureName ""
browseName ""
browseDescription "TODO - Add Description Here."
isFirstCapitalShipIsFlagship TRUE
randomizeStartingPositions FALSE
planetArtifactDensity 0.000000
planetBonusDensity 0.750000
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Population 3
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:CivilianModules 1
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:TacticalModules 0
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Home 1
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:ArtifactLevel 10
normalStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Infrastructure 2
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Population 3
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:CivilianModules 3
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:TacticalModules 3
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Home 1
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:ArtifactLevel 10
quickStartHomePlanetUpgradeLevel:Infrastructure 3
recommendedGameTypeCount 0
metersPerGalaxyUnit 50000.000000
pixelsPerGalaxyUnit 2.000000
useRandomGenerator FALSE
galaxyWidth 6298.000000
galaxyHeight 4639.000000
nextStarNameUniqueId 9
nextPlanetNameUniqueId 102
triggerCount 0
starCount 4
star
   designName "Star0"
   inGameName ""
   type "RandomNonGreenStar"
   pos [ 3465 , 2343 ]
   radius 200.000000
   moveAreaRadius 60000.000000
   hyperspaceExitRadius 40000.000000
   planetCount 20

    planet
       designName "Planet3"
       inGameName ""
       type "Desert"
       pos [ 3494 , 2382 ]
       moveAreaRadius 40000.000000
       hyperspaceExitRadius 30000.000000
       owner "RandomMilitia"
       isHomePlanet FALSE
       normalStartUpgradeLevelForPopulation 3
       normalStartUpgradeLevelForCivilianModules 1
       normalStartUpgradeLevelForTacticalModules 0
       normalStartUpgradeLevelForArtifacts 10
       normalStartUpgradeLevelForInfrastructure 2
       quickStartUpgradeLevelForPopulation 4
       quickStartUpgradeLevelForCivilianModules 1
       quickStartUpgradeLevelForTacticalModules 0
       quickStartUpgradeLevelForArtifacts 10
       quickStartUpgradeLevelForInfrastructure 2
       planetItems
           templateName ""
           subTemplates 1
           template "RandomMilitia"
           groups 1
           group
               condition
                   type "Always"
                   param ""
               owner "NoOwner"
               colonizeChance 0.000000
               items 4
               item "Artifact:PlanetaryOrganicAI"
               item "Bonus:StrictSecurity"
               item "Bonus:StrictSecurity"
               item "Bonus:StrictSecurity"
       spawnProbability 1.000000
       useDefaultTemplate FALSE
       entityCount 0
       asteroidCount 0

templates 1
template
   templateName "RandomMilitia"
   subTemplates 0
   groups 11
   group
       condition
           type "Always"
           param ""
       owner "RandomMilitia"
       colonizeChance 0.000000
       items 18
       item "Tech:Module:CrystalExtractor"
       item "Tech:Module:CrystalExtractor"
       item "Tech:Module:MetalExtractor"
       item "Tech:Module:MetalExtractor"
       item "Tech:Module:CombatLab"
       item "Tech:Module:NonCombatLab"
       item "Tech:Frigate:AntiFighter"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Light"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Colony"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Heavy"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Light"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Light"
       item "Tech:Frigate:LongRange"
       item "Tech:Frigate:LongRange"
       item "Tech:Frigate:AntiFighter"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Constructor"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Constructor"
       item "Tech:CapitalShip:Colony"
   group
       condition
           type "PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithChance"
           param "0.9"
       owner "RandomMilitia"
       colonizeChance 0.000000
       items 11
       item "Tech:Frigate:AntiFighter"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Carrier"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Heavy"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Light"
       item "Tech:Frigate:LongRange"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Siege"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Utility0"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Utility1"
       item "Tech:Module:HangarDefense"
       item "Tech:Module:GaussDefense"
       item "Tech:Module:RepairPlatform"
   group
       condition
           type "PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithChance"
           param "0.9"
       owner "RandomMilitia"
       colonizeChance 0.000000
       items 10
       item "Tech:Module:GaussDefense"
       item "Tech:Module:CultureCenter"
       item "Tech:Frigate:AntiFighter"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Carrier"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Heavy"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Light"
       item "Tech:Frigate:LongRange"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Siege"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Utility0"
       item "Tech:Frigate:Utility1"
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Edit: fixed formatting

Any Ideas as to what I am doing wrong?

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the map problem IS that rebellion seems to have created an issue with the withchance conditions on the maps, that WERE working in mapversions 0,1,2 & 3.

regarding the posting of text, my usual method is to open the file in either notepad OR notepad++, highlight the entire text block that I want to post, copy the block, and paste into the browser window(I have been using this method for approx 4 years in this forum)

harpo

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Quoting harpo99999,

reply 1

the map problem IS that rebellion seems to have created an issue with the withchance conditions on the maps, that WERE working in mapversions 0,1,2 & 3.

regarding the posting of text, my usual method is to open the file in either notepad OR notepad++, highlight the entire text block that I want to post, copy the block, and paste into the browser window(I have been using this method for approx 4 years in this forum)

harpo

Great...been wasting all this time for naught. Any known workarounds?

As for the posting issue, I did copy from Notepad++ and I thought it had worked before....

Test:

planet designName "Planet3" inGameName "" type "Desert" pos [ 3494 , 2382 ] moveAreaRadius 40000.000000 hyperspaceExitRadius 30000.000000 owner "RandomMilitia" isHomePlanet FALSE normalStartUpgradeLevelForPopulation 3 normalStartUpgradeLevelForCivilianModules 1 normalStartUpgradeLevelForTacticalModules 0 normalStartUpgradeLevelForArtifacts 10 normalStartUpgradeLevelForInfrastructure 2 quickStartUpgradeLevelForPopulation 4 quickStartUpgradeLevelForCivilianModules 1 quickStartUpgradeLevelForTacticalModules 0 quickStartUpgradeLevelForArtifacts 10 quickStartUpgradeLevelForInfrastructure 2 planetItems templateName "" subTemplates 1 template "RandomMilitia" groups 1 group condition type "Always" param "" owner "NoOwner" colonizeChance 0.000000 items 4 item "Artifact:PlanetaryOrganicAI" item "Bonus:StrictSecurity" item "Bonus:StrictSecurity" item "Bonus:StrictSecurity" spawnProbability 1.000000 useDefaultTemplate FALSE entityCount 0 asteroidCount 0

Test Failed....I dunno

Test on Firefox:

Stupid IE....I should know better

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GoaFan77

Join Date 10/2008

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Quoting harpo99999,

reply 1

the map problem IS that rebellion seems to have created an issue with the withchance conditions on the maps, that WERE working in mapversions 0,1,2 & 3.

Well I've gotten some of my on chance stuff to work. What exactly changed?

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I also have had SOME withchance entries work BUT I get a LOT of errors in the logs/popups( with the dev) complaining about the withchance entries in maps and find it BLOODY frustrating when I am trying to test that my utilities actually do work inspite of the files looking identical files(to my eye when comparing line by line) (using a stock map from dip updated to map4 from map3 with a rebellion stock map of the same name.

harpo

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Well, after some playing around it looks like "PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithChance" doesn't mix well with "RandomMilitia". If I set the planet owner as Militia0/1/2/etc I get a random assortment of ships (altho in one test they bombed their own planet lol). If I use "NoPlanetOwnerWithChance" I get the random assortment with RandomMilitia (making sure they have a colony ship to quickly colonize the planet). Weird...

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GoaFan77

Join Date 10/2008

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Quoting AceXMachine,

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Well Ace, now that I can read your code with proper spaces... none of your groups have a colonize chance greater than zero. Use "PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithChance" if you want extra stuff to spawn if the militia actually own the planet. Use "NoOwnerWithChance" if no one is going to own the planet. You can't use WithChance if the player or the pirates own the planet.

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Ahhh, I was wondering what that was for but I thought I had checked that out already on a map made with map designer a while back when I first starting making maps trying to figure out what everything did. I must have misread it or something heh. Thanks! So for clarification, if I set it to "1", it will always be colonized/spawn "RandomMilitia using my template...assuming everything "works"

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GoaFan77

Join Date 10/2008

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Quoting AceXMachine,

reply 8

So for clarification, if I set it to "1", it will always be colonized/spawn "RandomMilitia using my template...assuming everything "works"

Yes. If you want the planets to be colonized, you need to set ColonizeChance on one of the groups to be greater than zero (1.0 if you want ones that use "PlanetOwnerIsMilitiaWithCance" to always work). If you just want more militia to appear at the planet without it being colonized, use "NoOwnerWithChance".

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Thanks again Goa!

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Game is an idiot and loves the noplanetowner/withchance over planetowner/withchance. Games made with the map maker will have militias that colonize -but only the default stuff. Custom templates -you might as well make them always colonize for how the game selects things. Royal ****ing Pain.

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