Some people don't like a challenge.

They are imbalanced.. it's quite simple, they can trample races unfairly since counters aren't viable early game in mass, especially considering the lack of fleet supply needed to have a sb... so you're gimping your enemy because he needs to supply up so he can fleet to beat it, early game it's just not viable. Stop crying noob.

I think you need need to evaluate how you act on here nublet, you are a noob. You are showing the tell tell signs of one. YES if i played vas reb i'd win majority of my games, 1v1's would be a walkover against any other race.

It's not the balance you get in Starcraft ffs.. this isn't balance at all. Vas loyalists are OK but rebels not. I don't care if you don't believe me? I have 500+ games on you so what do i know? 

I certainly have got my definitions right, to prove i even grabbed them for you!

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You sir, are a n0000bch000b.

VR don't get the play. So the wins would be low.

And ironclad are aware that there are issues with VR, they know the online community has an issue with them. They know they are banned from games.

Jumping Orkies are too powerful and can't be effectively dealt with.  If you have such a big problem with this, support nerfing them or host your own games and allow them.

True, but it has no prerequisites and is severely OP in MP games, particularly so when the player is an eco because they can have the monetary support to put multiple jumping Orkies on each front without having to fleet up.  Beyond that, in MP games, if someone wants a tech, they will rush labs to get there.

It is not people think it is OP. Since In VR games everyone can play them.

Main reason is that in a game with Vasari Rebels and with players that actually know what they are doing if you do not choose VR you are severely handicapped from start.

I will choose vasari rebels if any other player chooses them since if I don't I am sure to loose. Such game at least for me is very boring and to be honest I rather not play it. 

I did play 2 or 3 VR games on MP for sole reason to show people in that game that were claiming that they can be countered with fleet that they are seriously mistaken in their assessment of balance between races.  

Unless i'm roid rushing you...

hehe but he's right guys.. in good hands they are a severe handicap for the enemy team, and if you decide to let an eco spot do it.. well you've already lost..

Indeed - I stupidly hopped into a 3v3 last night and didn't notice one on the other team was VR. Game was 3+ hours. It didn't help that my teammates were asshats bickering with each other all game and refusing to help each other but the VR was in eco spot and just spammed them non stop. I did have some delicious Wail of the Sacrificed fleet decimation to retaliate but I couldn't carry a situation like that to victory. Each VR SB had like 24000 health plus 14000 shields. I had a level 10 Eradica and 10 carriers or so and we played a lot of ring around the grav well. By the time one was dead (about 5-7 minutes it felt like), the other was on its way. He just kept lobbing them out all game. I forget how the activation works though - I thought only one could be active at a time? Or can only one use jump actively at a time? All I know is I had two actively destroying stuff in 2 of my grav wells at the same time.

I used to love Sins Trinity and wasted hundreds of hours playing it but rebellion has ruined what was a great, balanced game. Vasari Rebels are far too unbalanced because of the Orkulus and the Titans become the pivot of the whole game. I'm not against the idea of having larger ships but they way they have been implemented has been aweful.

As of today I will not be playing any further games of Sins since the game is nowhere near as enjoyable as it was before they introduced the titans and phase jumping orkulus.

Time to play something else

well, 4 out of 6, cuz no one plays Advent Loyalists because they are UP.

Not sure when you bought diplo but it took them more than a year to balance 3 races.

Here you have 6 with some very strong abilities for most races ...... 

Next patch is scheduled for early August but be sure it is not going to fix everything  so be patient

I don't think it requires a nerf tbh... wail is sooooo situational its barely worth a mention. SURE you can make a mistake and get wailed, but on the other hand, wailing isnt usefull if you are winning, or playing well. 

It's great to protect a lane but on the whole i've used it, 3 times? On roids and any low pop planet its useless, and we dont get many terran/des that are in ideal spots.. 

HOWEVER a well placed wail on premade maps can make for an interesting choke point