Can you rate the relative strength of the races?
From what I gather, its something like this, in generalized terms:
VR
VL
AR
TR
TL
AL
From what I gather, its something like this, in generalized terms:
VR
VL
AR
TR
TL
AL
I'd say TEC loyalists are better than rebels.
Here is my opinion, stated in an earlier thread:
It depends on whether you are eco or frontliner/suicide, so I'll divide them up by that...I generally think of early game as very brief, with mid-game being broken up into "pre-titans" and "after-titans"...
Frontliner/Suicide:
Early game:
Early-Mid game (before titans):
Mid-game (first titans):
Late game:
Very late game:
Eco:
Early game:
Early-Mid game (before titans):
Mid-game (first titans):
Late game:
Very late game:
1. Vasari Rebels
2. Vasari Loyalists
3. TEC Rebels
4. Advent Rebels
5. TEC Loyalists
6. Advent Loyalists
Whats a sanchez and why is it dirty?
1. Vasari Rebels Amazing titan, orkies, bombers
2. Advent Rebels Unstoppable fleet, great titan and wail, sc
3. Vasari Loyalists Eating Planets+kostura+high mobility titan, bombers
4. Advent Loyalists Unstoppable fleet, sc
5. TEC Rebels Good titan, weak fleets, BRB
6. TEC loyalists no titan, weak fleets, dual BRB
Am I seeing "no titan" ?
Also,

Should we not consider matchups? Since i agree with most of whats said.. I would argue tec or advent are the best on wing, and thus control the game if you went with vasari wings, even with tec/advent eco, you'd be losing..
No.
To be fair i don't give a shit if you agree with me or not.
I think this should be considered when rating a race. Because... IF i was to rate them it would be Advent-Tec-Vasari. Because i win my games with them in that order. I don't enjoy vasari, i don't like the play style, its slow. Not very rewarding.
Besides imo advent win any matchup early game. Unless you're playing someone exceptional, or you're unlucky with map spawn.
Seleucia has a nice breakdown of the strengths and weaknesses under various circumstances. Vasari are hands down the best late game. Their early game, if I'm to take the examples of "skilled" players I see online, consists pretty much entirely of trying to spam starbases offensively. I guess with the advent of corvettes (ho ho ho) in Rebellion, their advantage of getting LRMs with just one military lab suffered. I don't play vasari much - how do vasari players feel about their early game besides tier2 starbases?
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